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DKNG - Fundamental DD Inside - DKNG

This is an example of fundamental DD that takes place at ‘smart’ money institutions based on my professional experience in IBD, Private Equity & most recently at a HF (mods can message me for proof). Not thoroughly fleshed out b/c you autists have limited attention spans, but a summary. Figured I’d take the time to give back to this community that has provided many lolz, & should be a good measuring stick when evaluating other forms of fundamental DD posted here.
NFA.
DKNG - DraftKings, Inc.: vertically integrated US mobile betting operator that also provides retail sports betting & back-end betting solutions through SBTech. Think of SBTech as the tech ‘market-maker’ for traditional sports betting, they do all the funny math to set the betting odds & seem to be working on back-end solutions for DKNG Casino
The Big Picture
Only ~2% of the ~$90Bn gambling revenues were placed online which is the lowest in the world where betting online is legal. For example, in other countries online gaming activity represents ~6% - ~52% of total gambling revenues, with ~12% being the average.
Wall Street expects online gaming revenue to be $20Bn-$40Bn within the next 10 years. For this to be achieved, the online gambling market will have to achieve a ~30% penetration rate on total country gaming revenues. There is an expectation that this is could be easily achievable given penetration trends overseas - see page 11 of this: https://s1.rationalcdn.com/vendors/stars-group/documents/presentations/TSG-Investor-Day_March-27-2019.pdf
Other catalysts include increasing adaptation of sports betting in more states. States that have both legal sports betting + online sports betting permitted: NV, NJ, WV, PA, IA. Sports betting permitted but no online: DE, MS, RI, MO, AR. Prior to COVID there was ongoing discussions across many States, especially ones with growing deficits to explore how permitting sports betting could create a fresh avenue of tax dollars. Post COVID there is an expectation that these discussions will be given extra focus as many States will be hungry for incremental tax dollars. Important to note that currently 43/50 States allow DFS, but given the small share DFS has on total Gaming Revenues, it increasingly looks like DKNG is banking on traditional sports betting for a variety of reasons, more later. There are entire articles on Google arguing this catalyst so I’ll end this here.
Digging Deeper
DKNG’s main offerings are Daily Fantasy Sports (“DFS”) products & traditional sports book products to its clients. Long story short, a metric to look for in my opinion (that is curiously not reported by management or remarked on) is the hold % in traditional gaming sector parlance or the ‘rake’ & compare it to the ‘traditional’ gaming products like sports betting & Blackjack.
For DFS: DKNG takes ~15% of the prize pool (note: used to be ~6-11% [2]). Curiously, their main competitor FanDuel also has moved up to a ~15% rake recently. Google searches show the smaller competitors have a rake in the ~13% range.
This ‘rake’ has grown ~2x in 6 years, but it has been a delicate move on behalf of management. Why? B/c the more ‘sophisticated’ DFS players (equal to autistic day traders on Robinhood) have noted this increase & based on some Googling, some have moved down market to the smaller players. As a side note, many live casino games have their rules altered to grow the Hold %. For example, Blackjack games with 6:5 payouts on 21 have materially higher Hold % than the traditional BJ rules that pay out 3:2. Given the findings so far, DKNG may not have much room to materially increase its hold % in DFS games in the near-term from current of 15%. More on this later.
Now why the fuck is this important? This is important b/c the typical sports book (ex-Parlays) have a ~5% hold %/rake. Parlays have up to a ~30% hold (which is why it’s commonly known as the sucker’s bet), & just for reference, the average Blackjack table clocks in 14.5%. What this means: Every dollar put into these games, the “House” or DKNG, will take 15% of your money for DFS games, for sports bets they will be pocketing ~5%, up to ~30% if you’re into parlays, & we’ll just use the standard 14.5% BJ hold for the DraftKings Casino platform.
So why the acquisition of SBTech & a foray into the traditional sports gambling market? As you can see previously, the illegal sports betting market is >30x the size of the current daily fantasy sports market. So it’s clear that the DFS providers including DKNG are foraying into the space to capture this user base & hopefully convert them into games that have a higher hold %, such as DFS/DKNG Casino.
As of May 2020, DKNG has achieved a 30% penetration rate on its ~4mm ‘monetized’ DFS clientele to its Online Sports Book (OSB), from the OSB+DFS clientele, DKNG has converted 50% into its DraftKings Casino platform.
Including non-monetized users, user base totals at 12mm. Based on these unit economics: every 1mm of additional users -> 333k monetized users for DFS -> 100k users for OSB -> 50k users for DraftKings Casino.
Some Numbers – Italicized/Bolded the important
Numbers that represent Risks to Long Thesis
Things to look for when going Long
- Progress of additional States legalizing sports betting – specifically, States with DFS already legalized
- Cost structure evolving to a more fixed mix vs. the mostly variable mix currently as this will be the forward figure that determines profitability
- Increasing User Base (Curr.: 12mm) -> Monetized Base (Curr.: 4mm) -> MUP (1Q’20: 0.7mm)
Share Price Target
Given the cost structure of the company, I’m going to base the price targets around Enterprise Value / Revenues (driven by MUPs & ARPUs).
Bear Case MUP: 5mm -> $20.32 - $45.73
Base Case MUP: 5.5mm -> $22.27 - $50.10
Bull Case MUP: 6mm -> $24.21 - $54.47
These MUPs imply a monetized customer base of 28mm – 33mm. At the high-end, this implies that DKNG monetized customer base will equal MGM’s current total user base.
At yesterday’s close of $43.70, DKNG is trading at 3.5x – 4.5x forward Revenues on an expected >5,000 MUPs.
Share Price drivers / considerations:
- Continued multiple expansion
- MUP Growth exceeding beyond targets
Management Team
Jason Robins, 39 – Co-Founder & CEO. Duke BA, started DraftKings from day 1 in 2011. The 2 other buddies he started the Company with are still at DKNG. Dude navigated the Company through the scandal that rocked them in ’15 & ’16, and was the trailblazer in getting DFS labeled as a non-gambling product that enabled it to open in States without a gaming designation. This shit is the stuff that gets people in history books. His accomplishments make him seem like a very competent guy. Has 3 kids now, and only ~3% economic ownership in DKNG but has 90% of the voting power through his Class B share ownership. Also he actively participates in venture investments, sitting on 10 boards.
His comp plan performance bonus target is pretty murky, but main drivers are EPS growth, revenue growth, then a bunch of margin & return metrics, along with share price returns. Overall, very open-ended & it’s safe to say as long as shit doesn’t hit the fan, he will be eligible for his max payouts year over year. I’m assuming the lawyers tried to encompass everything possible for maximum flexibility to justify him earning his max comp as long as DKNG is still around.
Since he’s got voting control of 90%, I’ll end the specific-person overview here, but want to note that they have a very bloated C-suite. 12 folks at DKNG, 8 folks at SBTech, all with C-suite designations. Whereas their main competitor FanDuel, has 3 guys with a C-suite designations & 1 EVP, but is a sub under a larger ParentCo that has its own management team of ~5 guys.
Looking through glassdoor you can see the biggest complaint among employees giving bad reviews is based on management, all of the specific issues they point out IMO are a result of a top-heavy company. Seems like a good starting point to optimize their cost structure, but given Robins' history of sticking this entire thing through with his co-founders since '11 stuff like this doesn't seem to be a part of his playbook. They’re a public company now though, so it’s going to be interesting to see going forward.
TL;DR:
If I were to initiate a position in DKNG, the stock would have to fall to the $35-$37 range for me to be a buyer of the stock, and based on this rough intro analysis I'll be considering Put options if it breaches $50. I would not touch Calls at this level.

[1] Susquehanna Research – U.S. Online Gambling 6/27/19
[2] https://rotogrinders.com/articles/bang-for-your-buck-a-look-at-dfs-industry-rake-153302
[3] https://draftkings.gcs-web.com/static-files/8f3a5c5a-7228-45bf-aab2-63604111c48d
[4] Goldman Sachs Research – DKNG Initiation 5/19/20
[5]https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/223071/Dont_monetize_like_League_of_Legends_consultant_says.php
[6] https://rotogrinders.com/threads/how-many-people-actually-play-dfs-regularly-252044
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Would anyone want to read the rest of this story? Should I turn this in to a book?

How would I expand this? I want to write a book.

Junior year of University, I was approached by M(atty)M(oe) he was goading me to apply to a community service organization, the Bonner program, which rewards students accepted with a $5,000 check. Reluctantly, I applied and shockingly I was accepted into the program, which also included the aforementioned scholarship. Upon receipt of the scholarship check I stood at my mailbox for about 10 minutes $5000 seemed like a small fortune to me, a check of $5000 was almost license to drink myself into oblivion, or throw my fraternity a party completely funded by yours truly.
Nervously, I walked over to the registrars office of Stetson University and said; "Ummm I believe you’ve made a mistake, this check does not belong to me…" They tell me in return, "No that’s your award for being accepted into Bonner."
My head was spinning from the absolute good fortune of doggedly pursuing the philanthropic streak in me, and heeding MMs advice. I was trying to decide what to do with the money; "I could throw my fraternity a party…I could invest it, but any investment right now is suicide…I could buy a motorcycle…" I decided to go with motorcycle, not immediate suicide, I would at least get an dopamine rush on a daily basis. I might even attract a few girls!
Side note: the 'investment option" would have been the best option, I was presenting the equity: SNA, to the board of trustees for purchase into the school endowment portfolio, at time of check receipt, SNA (Snap-On), the equity I was presenting, was trading around $30-35/share (it touched $29/share on the day I made my presentation). At time of writing SNA was trading at $183.59/share. Upon receipt of the scholarship money that was gifted to me, for my good deeds towards humanity, I could have bought 5000/35 = 142 shares of SNA, 142*183=~$30,000. Though no (not) sane 20 year old kid would want to lock their money up for eternity and buy stocks and bonds, that is for old people… like 25 year olds.
I went down to Deland Motorsports with my best friend to browse a few insane 'crotch rockets,' Id learnt that an I-4, or inline 4 cylinder, motorcycle would be vastly overpowered for a 'squid*. Accepting this, I decided on a , very powerful Suzuki SV650s, a sane choice for a "noob."
*squirrely kid
With the final signature of some loan document (stupidly I wasnt not paying very close attention to the verbiage, or amounts - pretty incredible for a finance major) a sudden Dopamine wave went through my body. Holy shit, I thought, do I own another motor vehicle? Im going to get so many girls(!) but I am dating JL… Perhaps her friends will badger her incessantly, and she'll cave and bring another girl into the mix.
None of that happened. Though I did hook up with one if the 'hottest' girls at Stetson, MC, and she specifically said: "you look so 'hawt' riding your motorcycle back from intramural Soccer games, shirtless." Which I interpreted as a flirtatious vote lauding the purchase of that death machine, exactly the type of thing I had in mind when making the purchase. Then there was CZ, Im fairly certain she didn’t have a sexual motivation activated by the motorcycle, this was just a girl who was 'thirsty.' The summer between Junior and Senior year I was selected (incredibly) for an internship with Morgan Stanley, I remember getting the call, in April 2007:
"Hello, could we speak with Nicolas Uppal?"
ohhhh shit what did I do now? "Speaking" I said
"Congratulations Nicolas! You’ve been selected to be a Junior Financial analyst with the GWMG group at Morgan Stanley! You have two options: Beverly Hills or Downtown LA"
All my friends and family can tell you how I was constantly professing to 'adore city life,' and how 'I felt empty if I did not see anything in the sky.' However, the option laid out in front of me required some deliberation, time I did not have. "Uh uh uh Beverly Hills" I blurted out.
"Excellent choice we will send you a confirmation email with the next steps included. Welcome aboard."
Holy sh!t, I thought, im a rising Senior and I already have employment plans.
I immediately called my mother, and let her know the great news.
"I hope you & BPJ approve of this." Quickly explain the Morgan Stanley tale.
"Bien sur que il va etre excite, et mois aussi!"
"Awesome, I have class, talk to you soon, love you."
And with that I thought my future was coming together. I putted around campus for the remainder of my Junior and Senior years, occasionally riding out to Daytona beach, thinking: "this is so cool thank god for this helmet though, I didn’t have the cash to buy one there! Im glad the dealer included one with the sale." That call came at the perfect time to fully let loose over spring break.
For Spring Break; I went to Key West with GA, EM, CF, and DS - we had a blast. I don’t think there was a 5-minute space when all 5 of us were not drunk or high. Then, GA and I had the brilliant idea of renting 49cc scooters and terrorizing Duvall St. We were wrong, Duvall St. terrorized us, EM got into a fight with a bouncer at some popular bar on the strip on Duvall St. EM destroyed him, he just sat on the entrance steps as all 5 of us stumbled in, then 10 minutes and 5 drinks later, we stumbled out, mounted our scooters and safely made it back to our motel, this episode only reinforced my feeling of being invincible.
The next day GA and I were racing on the mopeds around Key West, seeing some traffic up ahead I decided to ramp on to the sidewalk and ride on the sidewalk and 'bunnyhop' down off the sidewalk, thus ensuring my victory. GA pulled up next to me laughing his ass off, from that point forward it didn’t matter if we were drunk, high, or both - we were jumping off sidewalks. Amazingly, none of us went down, except for CF who gave the scooter too much throttle on the sand, lost the rear end and the scooter fishtailed out from underneath him in some sand. Schadenfreude, I thought. Good thing im (slightly) more skilled at riding scooters.
We then had our final night out, just got really drunk didn’t do anything to prepare for the ride back up to Dea(d)land, and await the final 2 months of school.
In the final 2 months of Senior year I attended Ultra Music Festival, I was so in to progressive house and was known around campus for my love affair with House music. In fact DS and I hosted a radio show called "Techno story time," where we would 'drop' the sickest track we had heard during the previous week, and between tracks I would tell an 'R'/'X' rated story of the debauchery. Looking back on this, I must've seemed like such a douchebag, literally kissing and telling whoever had the misfortune of tuning in. Ultra (UMF) was in Miami a 7 hour drive, too pusillanimous to take 'Brutus,' (I wanted to keep him in excellent condition, keep the mileage low) I decided to take the motorcycle.
I recall that going to Miami on a motorcycle was so draining, but as always I was able to overcome that challenge and arrive in Miami with time to spare. I crashed on JLs brothers couch at UM, what an awesome guy for putting up with a smelly, dirty guy who was banging his sister. Damn, in retrospect, I cant really forgive myself for breaking up with JL a year later
At Ultra Music Fest had an awesome time, I didn’t do any drugs, get drunk, or makeout/flirt/hookup with anyone else or smoke Cannabis (although you could smell the cannabis smoke 2-3 miles away). On the drive back, I decided to go as fast as I could (actually I just really really missed JL and wanted to get to Stetson sooner) I remember having the bike at 135 MPH (engine speed limit, were it not for that or I wouldve gone much faster - so that speed limiter was a good thing) for ~30 minutes on the long and boring interior highway FL91. 91 to I-4 to US 17 to JLs arms!
The final 2 months until graduation were essentially a self-imposed retirement; I had no projects due, no finals and before leaving to Ultra Fest '09 I had just given my bond presentation. I was a free man - with no employment lined up. The drawbacks of going to a small, unknown and not-well-connected-outside-of-Florida school were beginning to become apparent
During graduation, I don’t know why I was so somber, I stuck around after graduating for a few nights to party with the boys and be with JL before I departed towards the unknown of adulthood. Upon returning to Atlanta I just assumed that I would be able to 'crash' in my old room, without having a job. Luckily, about 4 months in to my joblessness my great friend from school KD was able to hook up an interview for me with his company, AT&T. I interviewed well, but I really think KD had it already arranged to have me hired, they just wanted to vet me. I interviewed and was subsequently hired to do some business analytics/data cleaning. While working at AT&T I did great work making fun of my superior AM, however, I was not entirely clear on my task. I know I was supposed to measure the times from product purchase to online implementation. Beyond that, However the work was a sinecure until I was hired by MS. We moved buildings, 1 block to a massive, wide open cubicle farm, there may have been ~1000 cubicles in that room - and my cubicle was positioned so that the screen of my computer was visible to everyone who walked in.
Despite being assigned to a less than desirable spot. I worked, not hard but I made sure I completed all my tasks. About 2 months into my 'shafting' I decided to fly to FLL, Ft. Lauderdale, to visit JL, I missed her so badly. I didn’t just miss the sex, I missed the affection, I missed the unconditional love. I had no idea what it was that drew me so close to JL, but I kept going to her. While I was visiting JL she suggested that we go to a dog racing track, having only been to one before, I went to a dog racing track in Daytona Beach with AGs dad and my BFF NB, I agreed the event was not too memorable. However, on the drive back from the track I received a call from the connection I made during my internship with MS, the Managing Director of HR, CNG.
CNG informed me of a position in Coral Gables, Miami FL working with one of her friends JFG. Since I was already in Naples, 90 miles from Miami, I replied with: "I can be there to interview in two days…" With that I experienced another endorphin rush, I ffelt like my future was being laid out in front of me, I just had to secure this job, work my ass off, endure a few years of menial pay until I am promoted to 'Associate' and pay for JL to move in with me. This was especially alluring to me because it seemed like my best friends were getting amazing jobs; RL (my best friend) was working at a PE shop in ATL, and my good friend MS was consulting with McKinsey in Dubai, then again they went to awesome schools Emory and Wharton, respectively.
After my interview with JFG I drove back to Naples for a night before flying back to Atlanta,. It finally felt like I was entering adulthood. I got the position in Miami, I then attempted to put in my two weeks at AT&T when I tried to put in my two weeks my supervisor, AM, said: "No need, you don’t need to come back tomorrow." So with that I was a free man for 2 months, it felt eerily similar to finishing Stetson. I set about organising my departure and move to Miami.
I quickly realised that I was too poor to remotely make a down payment on a condo sight-unseen, so I meekly implored JL to ask her brother, RL, to allow me to crash on his couch for '1 week at most.' I felt like such a bum, living in the UM dorms, working for MS but not having a place to call my own. I had to make a change, so I went around my office asking if anyone needed or knew of anyone who needed a roommate. Luckily, a friend of my then boss, JFG, also had an analyst on his team, RM. We met and quickly agreed to cohabitate an apartment.
Living with RM was fairly easy, he was a very agreeable roommate, I think I pulled the best hand out of the deal,I made sure I got the master suite of the apartment while paying 10% less than RM, I feel like an asshole thinking back on it - but capitalism makes you do things against your human nature. We got into an ok apartment if it were not for the recession of 08-09 we would have never been able to afford it.
About 2 months after I finalized living with RM, Ultra '11 was gearing up, knowing that I was not earning enough to afford a $230 ticket, I begged JL to buy the ticket for our 2 year anniversary. She did! I thought; oh man I love this girl so much, I cant wait to spend the rest o my life with her. My friends GA and DS also were at UMF '11, we had a blast. None of us got too high, drunk or messed up, and strangely I never got GA or EM back to my apartment even though it was 2 blocks from Bayfront park.
I recouped for 12 hours, slept off the alcohol and cannabis, and showed up for work that Monday, probably looking like shit. A few months later, I decided to look up my Boss during my internship, GD. When we connected he was so glad to hear from me, he was unsure if I had been hired. Two calls later he gave me two things: a task to test a Mercedes E55 AMG(we were both gearheads), a job offer in Beverly Hills. Having just the task to test drive the car wouldve been enough, but a job offer in LA? My mind began racing, I had a flexible start date so I was able to gradually close things out and speak with my portfolio manager. Although a favor was called in to get me hired, JFG had no qualms about letting me go.
A month later I went out for my birthday with KG, we werent dating but she had an enormous crush on me, infact she came to Stetson to visut me, much to the chagrin of Jenny. We went to a few small bars, and ended up at club LIV, it was there I met the most beautiful girl I ever laid eyes on, Viviane G. from Rio, much to my amazement she was in to me as well (probably because at the time I had a head of black hair, this made me look like a Brazilian model). Vivi (as I called her) and I hit it off we spent the rest of my time in Miami together, we never kissed, this is why I felt ok staying with Jenny.
Then, a car and yacht show, 1 block from my apartment spurred the motivation to call and break up with Jenny, strangely. I thought Vivi was the woman of my dreams, I didn’t take in to consideration everything Jenny, and her family, had done for me
I took 2 months to finish up in Miami, going out every night to get the last feel of Miami nightlife before I ventured out to the great unknown west. Once again, like in Miami, I arrived in LA and had to 'crash' on my moms good friend LDs guest bedroom, until I got my situation squared away. I was able to quickly secure an apartment 2 blocks from Hollywood Ave., with a view of the Hollywood sign. "Oh man," I thought "I must be the flossiest Stetson graduate right now." I soon came to learn that DS was in LA too, we linked up and I found my smoking/drinking partner while I was in LA.
Work in the Beverly Hills branch of Morgan Stanley was not overly intense, I was just working with a few extra figures. This increase in amount magnified any mistake I made, and I made quite a few mistakes, luckily these were only mistakes on internal reporting documents my managers (one in Beverly Hills and the other in Boston) were pretty cool with it, but still pointed these mistakes out. I remember the team assistant, AT, being so gorgeous, she was taken, or I wouldve been all over that, I wanted to marry her. There were three women that I wanted to marry: 1 - Vivi, 2 - Jenny, 3 - AT
About 2 months in to living in Los Angeles AT, told me about the website Thrillist. I thought "wow Thrillist is so cool, all these awesome events…wait whats thus 'Rental Car Rally?'" The more I read about it, the more I became supremely interested and thought, oh man my friend GA would be PERFECT as my co pilot. I kept thinking about all the hijinks we would get in to, and the speeding, and the (name your debaucherous activity here). GA flew out to LA, we secured a rental Camaro SS coupe and headed for the rally.
We get to the staging area and we see a flood of other cars, buses, and people dressed in ridiculous outfits "this is going to be too much fun!" we said to each other. As the staging process moves on we see some incredible car decorations, and at the end of the pre-rally warm up we are given the option to race on a circle track, being the speed demons that GA & I were, we A B S O L U T E L Y took full advantage of that option. There was no passing allowed, and a quarter track length between each racer. We stage in line - our turn comes up and I bury the throttle, the rear tires barely having grip as we rocket onto the track, I didn’t dare to go above 125 MPH sine I was unsure about the condition of the tires. As we finished what was essentially a penis-size competition, I decided to do an enormous burnout in the middle of the track. After that burnout we were off to the races.
The rally was set up as a series of checkpoints, you have to take a photo at each checkpoint for proof you were there. First checkpoint: LA Zoo. Going to a zoo during the day is interesting, and smelly. At night however, its frightening different sounds and screams from other ralliers in the distance, we took a photo and drove, withi the speed limits, o course, to the next check point. This checkpoint was an abandoned ski lodge, perfect for messing around on abandoned ski lifts. After the ski lodge, we vebtured out into the desert, we only had 1 checkpoint between the LA Zoo and Vegas, and that checkpoint was on the very western edge of Nevada, a brothel - GA said he had no interest in buyin their "product," I remarked to GA how sad I as that I didnt "dip my pen in Dutch ink" while I was in Amsterdam with KD, yet I too was leery of getting some western Nevada 'strange.' We terorized a few trailer parks, doing insane burnouts and leaving the trailer parkhood in dust.
GA and I get to the strip, our rental Camaro SS was filthy, but we gave no fuc*s. We pull up the crappy little off-strip motel, a motel that was likely used by the hookers around Las Vegas, toss our bags on the floor and crashed for about 4 hours. Our room was right be the Lima Bean shaped pool so we could hear the fellow ralliers horsing around by the pool. Greg gets up, looks out the window, tosses me a Natural Light and says; "the only way to detox is to retox muthaf*****!"
To which I replied :"that’s excellent, but first pack a bowl beforeI shower to get this wester Nevada hooker scent off me…"
We both get out to the pool and EVERYONE rom the starting line is there, they were all really really drunk. Since I was a little tired, and wanted to be on my game for gambling that night, I didn’t drink or smoke. The night rolled around and we rustled up some grub on the strip, then we went to MGM to gamble: "Im not putting more than $50 down for chips…"
"Cool, imma do $100, you broke bitch" GA said.
We decide to play some slots (yawn), some Roulette (yawn), then I said I wanted to play some BlackJack. We walked up to the black jack table, waited for the dealer to reshuffle, and jumped in. I felt really smart so I thought I could count cards, after a few hands I started to turn a $5 to $10 to $20 profit, leaving me with $50, the exact same as I started with I thought: "ok, I can quit now, or go for glory, and put 80% down…" Me being the dumb kid I was, I decided to put $40 down and risk it all.
"ohhhh the little piker thinks hes got game!?" The dealer said
"Ehhhh" I replied
The cards come out and I get a 9 and a King.
"I bet you want a hit…"
"Nah, the only hit im taking will be the hit of Cannabis I take after I win this hand"
"Ok kid"
The dealer got a 5, Queen. "I bet you want a hit…" I said in a snarky tone
He took a card, a 7.
I said: "Id like to close out, please"
"Awwww poor kid cant play!?"
"Id like to close out, please"
"Ok tough guy"
I take my chips, get them cashed, and wound up with $95. I turned to GA: "I see how this can get addictive, I turned a 90% ROI!"
"We both laughed, piled into the Camaro, and GA drove us back to LA. GA hung out with DS for an extra day in LA while I was at work - about a month went by before my portfolio manager GD told me I needed to get to Boston to meet the other half of the team, I had only spoken to AS & SG on the phone, trying to explain how to use my messed up spreadsheets. Upon the meeting I figured: "Im already in the North East, I will swing down to NYC to visit RL, RN & MS.
The first night we were itogether, we just went out, got drunk, went to MS' friends apartment, but she wasn’t home yet. So MS and I decided to sleep, on the loor, in front of her door in a fairly swanky Upper East Side apartment. Early that morning MS and I were both awoken by a securoty guard kicking our feet: "uhhhh whats goin on here?"
"oh, sorry we got locked out by our friend she didn’t come home last night, do you all have a lounge?"
"yep, to the right of the front desk"
"Awesome, thank you"
MS and I slept on couches (what a luxury until JP came home. We got cleaned up and I grabbed my bag and went to MS, RN, and RLs apartment. Except it was a 2-bedroom. RL has converted a narrow, but very tall closet into a bedroom/loft. RL and I had been friends since high school, so I felt ok asking him if I could toss my stuff in his room. It was Saturday night, so we all got cleaned up, grabbed a pizza ate in, and got hyped for Saturday night.
"Where should we go?" asked RN.
Me:"I really wanna go to Pacha near westside highway! I get a podcast every week by them, and they have awesome music!"
RN asks:"Ok, everybody cool with Pacha?"
MS:"I wanna hit a college bar, maybe we go there to pregame, then Pacha?"
Me: "yeah that sounds splendifferous"
We set out, at the college bar, I ended up taking 3 shots and I was done for, I cant remember a thing. I stumble up to the bar and ask or a Heineken. "Ohhh is that for me?" An unseen girl asked
"Sure, if we go home tonight."
"OK"
Not being able to believe my ears, I turned around and I see this really cuteAsian girl with her hand out.
"hmm youre pretty thirsty huh?"
"Like you wouldn’t believe" as she snatched the beer out of my hand
"Well maybe you can give me some private tutoring, so I do believe."
"Im a great teacher"
"Well, I kinda suck at school, anything you can do?"
"Well as far as sucking, I think we can work something out"
"well, Ill be sure to get you an extra juicy Apple"
"Sounds delicious"
We danced, occasionally kissing, and made our way back to RL, RN & MS' apartment. When we got there I realized I had no bed to sleep on, only a couch, but RL being the good friend he is said: "Y'all can sleep (wink) in my bed."
"The dungeon!? Yesssss. Thanks man."
So, this girl (didn’t and still don’t know her name) amble up the ladder, she was wearing a skirt and wanted to go first. "Ok I know where this is going…to the bed!"
"Aww cant we play teachestudent first?"
"Only if I get a taste of that Apple I brought you..."
The next morning was my flight out to LA at 4:56 PM, so I had time to grab brunch with the guys before I left. We ate on Chelsea Pier, I felt obliged to 'kiss and tell,' and extol them with my heroics. In retrospect, they probably didn’t want to hear it, I banged some random, probabky nasty girl on RLs bed. We finished lunch had some fun on Chelsea pier, and I flew back to LA. While back in Beverly Hills I was incredibly tire, but I took pride in recounting every detail to DV, knowing AT could hear. I stupidly thought: "if she hears how much fun im having, she might get jealous and want to hangout with me." I was such a devious little shit.
I finish telling DV just as GD walks in to hear the punchline; "…so I brought her back and got her on my friends bed!" GD walks to his station, with four screens (I used to think the ore screens you have the more of a boss you are, now I think the less you have to involve yourself with day-to-day, and intraday moves the more of a 'boss' you are) I can feel him staring at me smiling my ass of, he says "I WANT TO FU*KING HEAR!" So I launch into my tale (or should I say tail).
Later that week I called my father while biking to the gym. I called him because I made an error In the execution of a large fixed income trade, the price of the underlying security moved away from the price quoted, normally this would not matter since we had discretion over trading - meaning we would not need client approval. However, this was a trade for our largest client making a large fixed income purchase, so $.01 makes a big difference when the quantity purchased is in the millions. My father recounts this story to me as an almost emblematic admission of previous of apprehension towards him, and my subsequent of rectification.
As theNYC buzz began to wear off, I started going to bars around LA; SkyBar, and Viper Room one night my two buddies DS & DS, and I all agreed that we should go to Club Avalon, I was a huge electronic progressive house music aficionado so going to world famous club Avalon was *almost* as sweet as NYC with my bros. DS and I cohosted 'Techno Storytime' on the school radio, so we were super pumped to hear some much in the 110 - 130 BPM range.
Still feeling the nightlife buzz from NYC, I found myself able to easily to talk to girls. Doug and I were kinda wall flowers/club explorers, neither one of us has been to Avalon, but upon exploring it we both agreed, DS would love it too, we should start meeting there monthly. The night wore on, I found myself uninterested in paying $12.00 for a bottle if Heineken, so I started to hit on some women, DS and I had explored too much and I only had 30 minutes to seal the deal. So I got to work, quickly scored the number, but we got sidetracked talking about a subject I really, really enjoy; political analysis.
We talked political analysis I wish I could remember what she was saying, she was so on the ball, that awareness only increased my attraction to her. We talked for a bit, we went to the outside portion of the club, seeing her in the moonlight I thought; "shit, she is magnificent, screw AT if I land her. Her looks combined with her intellect make her a superwoman, exactly the type of woman I want carrying my seed. By this point 20 minutes had elapsed, and the club began emptying, "oh shit better seal th-"
"It was amazing talking to you, but I have to find my friends."
"Wait, maybe we…"
She was gone from my life, at least I had her number…
I moped back to DS, he asked me: "Howd it go man!?"
I started yelling that 'I couldn’t seal the f$%^ing deal!"
"Its cool man, this is a big city, im sure youll have other shots, lets catch a cab back to my crib, smoke a bowl watch a movie and forget about all this."
"Aight dude that sounds awesome."
So, we go out to the taxi area, DS and I just bullshitting, and he stop talking: "…so DS has this sick fader on his turn tab…. Wait, what was the name of the girl you were talking to?"
"Why? K(atie)A(ltman…)
"KATIE!!!!!!"
"D what the…."
"KATIE!!!!!!"
"Oh Shit that’s Katie!"
He yells -"KATIE!!!!!!"
She turns around as she is getting in to her cab, with her buddies. I sprint over to her cab wrench the cab door open, and ride with the back to their apartment in Laurel Canyon. From here, I don’t have a clear memory of what happened but I woke up in my bed the next morning. "Shit" I thought, did I walk back to Franklin from Laurel Canyon? Guess I don’t need to work out today! So I rolled back over and dozed for another 45minutes until I get a text from the girl who was sweating me at the gym, CS.
A little back story on CR; I was always checking her out, so was always pushing her massive chest out when I would walk by and she was on a machine. Then one day she walked up behind me while I was doing pushups, waited for me to finish me set… "ninety eight…ninety nine…one hundered, I don’t know I you were listening there I did 100 pushups, ha ha ha
"Is that rom a movie???"
"Anchorman!"
"Ohhhh, well lets see how you do with me riding yourback!"
"Wait what?"
CR straddled my back and plopped down. I pretended to not be able do any with her on my back. "Come on muscle man, make me ride you!"
"Um, im not sure I feel comfortable announcing to the gym that you want to fuck me"
"Who said that, that wishful thinking man…"
"How about we compare our wishes, what is a good night next week to take you to dinner?"
"Sunday night"
"Sunday!?!?"
"I am a nurse so I work weird hours, but next Sunday night, lets get take out, a bottle of wine and some…youre from India right?"
"Half"
"Ok, some Hindu Kush, sit on the beach in Santa Monica and share dinner."
"Whoa, yes ma'am!"
"Ma'am?"
"Southern thing, I tell you about on Sunday night."
"Can't wait" She said with a smile
I left the LA Fitness on Hollywood BLVD. next to the Chinese Theater in a dream state. Then I realized that Sunday night was 2 nights away! Shit I need to get wine and a ton of Hindu Kush! I secured the Hindu Kush (too much), but not the wine, I wanted to get Red, and White to give her the option. Since I has just moved into my new apartment, I didn’t have time to set everything up, so I didn’t have time to buy a cooler to chill the white wine; "I will have to buy it the night of."
I searched my room and couldn’t find any more bud, so I decided to Meet DS and DS for dinner, we wound up going to a bar too - oops! Needless to say I didn’t get to pick up the wine, or the Kush, id have to pick it up before the date, tomorrow. "Hey do you guys know I any dispensaries are open on Sunday??
"They arent, but our friend owns one, he'll sell to you."
"Awesome"
So, I contact DS and DS' buddy; I meet him and buy absolutely too much bud, and buy some gummies too, I swing back by my apartment on Franklin, drop off the dry bud" CR and I wont need that much, and get a call from DS, Ds and crew: "Yooo nuppal, were gonna go catch a movie, you down?"
"Yeah man lets do it!"
I quickly grab my backpack, remembering that I needed to pick up the wine, and knowing I needed to bring some bud. I hopped on my bike and roade over to East Hollywood to catch a flick with them. I pull up, get off the bike as theyre rolling up, I swing my backpack across, thinking im going to light up. I open the back pack… "Hey guys lets do this before…" Open the back pack a but more and reach in feeling for my bowl and the tupperware with the dry kush, and realizing that I hadnt unpacked the edibles that id bought. So, I skipped the dry bud and said: "hey guys I just bought these edibles, lets each grab some gummies and watch the movie…"
"Alright dude, but Edibles will hit when the movie is ending, but yeah man!"
So we take some gummies, and watch the movie. DS was right, the gummies did begin to take effect as the movie ended: "shit" I thought "Im gonna have to ride to Santa Monica while pretty high…no big deal, I hate riding high though." As Im riding down Sunset BLVD, heading west towards Santa Monica I happen to look up at the sky during a red light. The magnificence of a South-Western Southern California sunset is something everyone must enjoy, similar to the colors a Monet painting. I stared up at the sky for longer than the light was red, so people behind me became agitated. I quickly moved down Sunset blvd. at the famous (or infamous) intersection of Sunset Blvd. & Larrabee St. in West Hollywood.
Still mesmerized by the sunset, yet trying to focus, I see a clapped out For Expedition come from Larrabee, turning left onto Sunset the intended turn was in my path. I took a second to process "this is my path what the fuohhhh," going from euphoric joy to life saving maneuvers is not something they teach in MSF school, good thing I never went. After processing his intended trajectory I slammed on the brakes,
A part-time bartender at the Viper Room "didn’t see his red light due to sun" and was under assume every light is 'Green' for him. So he decided that even though there is traffic on Sunset, he would rather turn o make sure there was no traffic going in his intended direction on Sunset. I knew that grabbing too much front brake would send me headfirst into the pavement and his car, and into my coffin. So, I decided to overapply the rear brake, lay the bike down and hope for the best, I guess 'the best' of an inherently shitty situation did occur, I lived! However, while sliding through the Sunset & Larrabee intersection my back connected with the end of his passenger-side running board, my brand new Scorpion Exo-1000 hit the running board as well. Instantly knocked out. According to the report filed by the ambulance driver I was 'unresponsive' at the scene, but no external blood, save a bit of road rash were my jacket bunched up underneath my left arm, I suffered a 'severe' DAI brain injury (Diffuse Axonal Injury) and 26 brain bleeds.
Luckily, the ambulance ride was at most 8 minutes to Cedars-Siani Beverly Hills, this hospital was on my commute path to and from work, on Maple Dr. I always wondered what the building was, so much property in the heart of Beverly Hills however, this was NOT the method I intended to find out about this building. Must have been a funny scene in the office the next Monday. "Looks like Nick is late again" said AT
My dad gave me my first laugh post injury, we agree that laughter is the vanguard of healing mental and physical ailments.
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An Opinionated Analysis of the Yang Campaign

Hello YANG GANG,
There are two parts to how I feel after everything. The first is heartbreak and sadness. The second is “aww sh*t, here we go again”.
I was an early yang gang member. I remember when polls didn’t mention him, no one talked about him and literally every response I got when I talked about him was: “Who?”. Ever since those days, I have obsessively followed Yang and in retrospect, this result was so much more than I had realistically hoped for when we started. Alas, we lost this battle.
I would like to go back and analyze our amazing journey. How we grew, what we did right, what we did wrong etc. I will try to be as data-oriented as possible. I apologize for getting carried away at some points. Any personal commentary I have, I will put between brackets {[ like this ]}.
Disclaimer: I AM NOT BLAMING ANYONE. There was a rationale behind everything that was done and the errors that we made, if any were made, are only clear now. Hindsight is 20/20. This is just a short essay about my observations. I would love to hear your ideas, comments, and criticisms. Hopefully, we can have a civil discussion about this here.
{[ the only place on the internet I can ]}
That being said let’s start.
About The Campaign itself:
---IOWA
You might be a person who thought that New Hampshire wasn’t the last hope and that South Carolina and Nevada could pick us up. If so, you are absolutely correct. New Hampshire wasn’t what finished the campaign. It was Iowa that finished this campaign. But not directly because of the results. {[Emphasis on the ‘not directly’]}
I’m sure you have noticed that we haven’t reached the fundraising goals for a while. And this is not the Yang Gang’s fault. We could never raise Bloomberg levels of money even if we gave all of our earnings to the campaign. That being said, we raised quite a lot anyway. The problem wasn’t a revenue problem, it was a spending problem. The campaign spent a lot of money on Iowa. And that went…. Less than optimally to put it lightly. But why was this decision made?
To point out the obvious, Iowa is where the race starts. However, Iowa is also a terrible place to start. This is true for all candidates, not just Yang. Iowa is a midwestern, white, moderate and religious state. In fact, doing well in Iowa is usually a bad sign for a democratic candidate. This is because what resonates in Iowa usually doesn’t resonate as well in other coastal and southern states. This is very noticeable by how campaigns change their tone after Iowa and by looking at previous election results. Blomberg and Steyer raising the price of commercials didn’t help either. Nor the fact that so many people saturated the field.
But the idea was that Iowa would be the initial spark we needed, the campaign hoped to go all-in on Iowa and then hoped that getting one delegate would build traction and start off the movement.That didn’t go as well. Even if we were to dismiss the app scandal, we only got 5% in Iowa as the polls predicted. And then the campaign lost a lot of money on that bet. On top of that, we missed a number of our fundraising goals.
You might ask weren’t the polls underestimating the young vote and the politically disengaged voters. To which the answer is ABSOLUTELY they did. But the young vote and the politically disengaged voters aren’t a big voting block in Iowa. See stats below:
Iowa 2016 voter stats:https://sos.iowa.gov/elections/pdf/2016/primary/statestats.pdf
Iowa 2018 voter stats:https://sos.iowa.gov/elections/pdf/2018/primary/statestats.pdf
(Please note that ‘no party’ voters, though technically independent, doesn’t mean an independent voter. It only means the person didn’t register; even if they have a strong sympathy for a party. This is very common to find when a state has open primaries.)
The campaign realized this and adapted its message. Stop sharing memes and start phone banking! Our kids are not all right. This message was not stupid. It was a very smart move we all applauded at the moment. But, as many phone bankers probably noticed, old voters care a lot about experience. This isn’t very shocking either. Before the internet grew, it was impossible for any outsider candidate to grow. The concept of a non-politician and/or a non-celebrity running for office is a very strange idea for most old people.
Am I saying Andrew should be a politician and work his rank up? NO.{[ NO NO NO!!!]} I am just saying old people care about this and it needs to be addressed somehow.
---MEDIA ATTENTION
I remember when Yang was “the possible democratic Trump”. The businessman who would come in and swoop the election from the politicians. But what was a secret weapon that Trump had that Yang didn’t? The media aired Trump EVERY DAY. Yang, on the other hand, got blacked out. Now let’s ask why? We usually are quick to jump to blame media biasses. But we are the Yang Gang, we know that it’s not corporations that are evil by nature, it’s their incentives that are misaligned with the people’s interest. The media companies like all other companies need profit. What brings profit? clicks, and viewers. Sensationalism basically.
When did Trump get the media's full attention? If you remember it was the day he said ”[Mexicans] are rapists and some are good people”´. That was so shocking and weird that the media showed it for hours and commentated on it for hours. What the media didn’t realize was that the people who were left behind were angry and hateful and needed something to blame their sorrows on. People actually agreed with him. You know the rest of the story from here.
Did we have a moment like this? Unfortunately no. We didn’t have that line. What would that line be? I honestly don’t know. All I know is that we didn’t have it.
I do however think that this was considered. I think the 1000$ a month was supposed to be the outrageous idea that would get media attention. This could explain Andrew’s constant bringing up of UBI, even when people were calling him a one-issue candidate. But there is a problem with this as well. Voters thought it was free money. This is a huge hurdle for us. Somehow, we need people to stop thinking that UBI is a free government handout for you to buy weed with. This is not going to be easy, but I think this campaign has taken a HUGE step forward on this.
{[Unpopular opinion alert]}
Personally, I think calling for Yang 2024 can give us a bad image. It’s harmless and motivational at the moment, but I think this shouldn't be raised until he officially runs again. The reason I think this is because I fear the campaign would stop being presented as policy-driven and more about electing Yang, the person. I don’t want us to become the next Bernie Bros.
---DEBATES
“c’MON yANG attack!!!”
We have all yelled this at our screen multiple times. But why didn’t he? He criticized policies but he wasn’t aggressive against candidates. Is he just a lame soyboy? Obviously not, we have seen him rip people to pieces in a calm manner as well. So what happened? The fact is, undecided and old voters are turned off by attacks, just look at how Tulsi’s attack on Harris played out. At the same time, not attacking results in not getting attention. It’s a delicate balance that you can fall easily off of. Look at Castro, he attacked and it didn’t stick. Also, if you make one tiny mistake in your attack, you will fall victim to harsh retaliation. On top of this, people who decide to support you one day because you attacked really well, can change their mind as easily when another attack happens as we saw with Kamala. It's a good way to get temporary support, but not loyal supporters. Basically it's a double-edged sword.
So what debate moments do we remember that worked for Andrew Yang. The “reality tv show” line. {[ AH, THE GOOD OLD DAYS ]} Why did that work? Across the political spectrum, Americans are sick of the establishment. We like to say Trump won but the reality is, he didn’t, it was Hillary that Lost. This is a common thing a lot of pundits get wrong. They think people are on a political line. There are Republicans, Democrats, and the in-betweeners. They believe that those in-betweeners are moderate and they got swung to the republican side because of racism, emails, etc. We all know that this is not the case. A lot of people hate the establishment with passion. People voted against the establishment. The reality tv show line was such a beautiful way to attack the establishment without sounding angry.But why did this stop? Why didn’t we hear more fourth wall breaks from Yang? What happened? We changed our tone. Why? My opinion is that it was because of Iowa and Bernie Bros, in a nutshell. We couldn’t get the Leftist Bernie votes on our side because they are very settled on voting for Bernie.{[Understatement of the day]} We were progressive, but we weren’t showing our anti-establishment side anymore. We tried to please Biden, Klobuchar, and Buttigieg voters. The real “moderate democrats”. We saw what people cared about, which was getting rid of Donald Trump and tried to convince voters that Andrew Yang was the best choice for this. However, there is a pattern of opposition parties choosing more “Vanilla” candidates against incumbent presidents. The logic behind this is usually, “Let’s try to compromise a little so the other side votes for us”. The sad thing about compromises is that everyone loses in a compromise and the passion disappears.
Could we have won if we stayed on the original tone or if we took a different approach? Could we actually have convinced the Bernie crowd that we are a better option? We will never know.

About the Yang Gang :
---POLICIES
In the early days, when no one had ever heard of Andrew Yang, it was difficult to convince people about him. So we had a very different approach, we talked about the policies first. We told people about his policies and how it would save the US. We were hoping for an answer like:
- “Yea that makes a lot of sense but no politician would support this”.- “WELL ACTUALLY...”
The amazing part was that it worked. It worked so well, that it got Trump voters to join Yang Gang. And as it is with sharing ideas in general, the internet was the best means to do this. We used memes to spread the message and had podcasts and interviews ready for people to look at when they got curious. (I remember the days when the Joe Rogan Podcast was our only “big” source)In those early days, it was so hard to bring Andrew Yang to the light that we actually hoped that some other politician would see his success and adopt his ideas. That would be considered a victory for us.
To be honest, I believed he could have become our president, but I was skeptical. I saw the surge of candidates to the field and the media talking about Biden, Buttigieg, Sanders, Warren, Kamala, O’rourke. I was skeptical. But that was the beauty of Andrew Yang. He didn’t care about being president. He wanted his ideas implemented. When he said “Either I’m going to win, or the politicians will sound like me”, he meant it. The second option was the goal at the time.
Now do I like the other candidates? NO. I can rank all the candidates in my head from best to worst, but I can do that with any disease. I don’t think anyone of them represents my ideas well. Yang was the better of them all.
But here is an idea to think about. How would have voters on the ground reacted if a common theme was: We don’t care if Andrew is the candidate, we care about policies X,y,z. If Biden or Warren or even Bloomberg will carry those messages, they will get my vote.
Want to guess who else did this very well? Trump voters. Ok, it’s difficult to see it now but when Trump the candidate was running and all his stupid personal BS was coming to light, what did his voters say? OK, yea he is not a perfect person but it's not about him it’s about that "Damn wall so Mexicans can stop taking over our country." {[or any other semi-racist variant]}
I hoped that Yang would have used this at the Debates. In my flawed dream world, I always hoped that he would say something like:
“If any of the front-runner candidates take on my ideas, I will drop out and endorse them. I didn’t come to this stage because it’s fun to run for president, or because I thought I had a good chance at winning. I wanted actual change that politicians have promised us for so long that never comes. I have voted for your colleagues hoping for a change, and nothing ever happens. Somehow the change that Americans desperately need is always promised IF we elect you. And when the change doesn’t happen after the election, you blame the other side and then we are told that the change will come if we elect you again. The American people are tired of losing when their party wins.”
{[The first line that I emphasize on, I know about his "We have been losing" line from the last debate]}
There might be a reason why this was never brought up. I honestly don’t know if it would have worked. I hope to hear some comments about this.
-Outside factors we didn’t expect:
---Repete
Mayor Pete {[that son of a… humanity first, humanity first]} copied Yang’s message a lot. A LOT. But Pete has a very unique skill we can see in debates. He knows how to sound wise. The truth is you can make anything wise. Here is a video of the Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Zizek illustrating my point:
{[I know he is controversial, and not everyone likes him, I refer to him only for this point]}https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJHp7JA8pnQ
Pete saw that Yang had a very good message. A message that made a businessman come from nowhere to get onto the debate stage when veteran politicians were dropping out. We reacted in a very natural way. We got pissed off and we had every right to be. He was and still is stealing words from Andrew’s mouth. Did Pete’s words weaken the impact of Yang’s message by repeating it with his style? It could make Yang look less unique in comparison to other candidates, but we can never truly know. {[Personally, I doubt it]}
But what if... We celebrated it. Yes, he is a moron, (forgive my non-humanity-first words), but what if we said: “Thank you, Pete, for spreading Yang’s message.” Would it have worked? What if Yang thanked him for his support of his ideas and asked him to take one step further by advocating for UBI and Medicare for all. Probably get a response similar to: “I consider UBI as an option, we need more research about this”. It would have been a perfect set up for Yang line about how Washington reacted to his ideas.
Would it have worked? Maybe, maybe not. {[Yea this is a common theme of this text]}---The Love for the welfare state {[ wait, what? really? ]}
Now, this I was shocked about, and I blame my ignorance for it. The argument of “Yang will get rid of welfare programs”, “he is a libertarian trojan horse”. When I first saw this attack it was from a Bernie bro as youtube comment, I thought it was a lame attempt at dismantling UBI. But then it was TYT, then Kyle Kulinski, then Pakman, and then AOC.
This made me realize something that I think my republican friends knew all along. There are Democrats who actually love big government. I always believed that Democrats support the government to help people in need and they would be against it if it was unnecessary. I was wrong. And out of all places, it came from the anti-establishment crowd.
In the early days, we thought we would be a team with the Sanders, Tulsi and Warren Campaign. (Back when everyone thought warren was a progressive) Instead, we got alienation. {[Except Tulsi maybe]}I want to share a conversation I had with a fellow Yanger during the summer.
-“Do you think the Bernie base will see us as enemies if we start the grow?”-“Nah, we have similar messages and common enemies”
Tragicomic is the only word that can describe my feelings when I read this again.

Conclusion:
We fought and we lost a battle. But the war is not over.
We can not forget; Yang is our leader but even if something terrible would happen to Yang (knock on wood) we can not stop fighting. We must now consider the path forward.
Personally, I believe we need to take one tiny step back. Go back to the whiteboard. Online Activity is how we first rose, and it’s the best way to grow for now. It's time to go back to the memes, to Reddit, to social media. Some of us will support the democratic nominee, some will support Trump and THAT’S OK. This is about more than the “You lose, I lose” politics of Washington.
We have said this fight is not about taking down Trump but fighting the disease that got Trump elected. That disease will remain and it’s likely that it will remain even if Trump loses the next election. I urge you to vote with your conscious but do not forget Yang. If someone asks me “Who would you vote for?”, I might say Tulsi or Bernie or Biden or whomever. But if someone asks “who do you support?”, my answer will always be Yang.
We need to show people that we were never about getting one Asian dude into the white house, we were never about only beating Trump. Underneath all the politics, all the canvassing, all the sweat and money we put to this campaign,
We have only one core motivation.
We don’t fight for Yang, we fight WITH Yang.
TOGETHER, WE FIGHT FOR HUMANITY.
Andrew Yang will be back. The Yang Gang will always be here.
The odds are not in our favor, and the hill in front of us is steep. We cannot stop now. We can not unsee everything that we have seen. It is too late to go back.
A personal message to Andrew:
Thank you, Andrew. No words can explain what you have done for me. It is thanks to you that I carry an unfamiliar feeling of Hope. Please take care of yourself. I can’t wait to see you again.

Edit: Grammar mistakes
Edit 2: to clarify, when I say it’s too early for Yang 2024, I truly just mean the words Yang and 2024. I think it might make us look like a cult of personality to non-Yangers.
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Wealth Formula Episode 189: Ask Buck Part 3

Catch the full episode: https://www.wealthformula.com/podcast/189-ask-buck-part-3/
Buck: Welcome back to the show everyone so this is the third and final round of Ask Buck at least for the probably the next couple of months right so glad you have enjoyed it at least that's what the feedback I'm getting is initially I was like hesitant about doing a third show but you know the reality is I'm getting a bunch of these emails tell people tell me that they like this format and that they're learning a lot and so I think the moral story here is that you know we do a lot of podcasts right we do a lot of podcasts we talked to a lot of people and once in a while it's nice to do sort of one of these 360s or would it be a 180 any way of looking back at you know a plethora of information that we've already kind of gone through and you know just start to put things together and you know there's some real practical questions that come out of these things that we don't always assess there's another reason by the way that if you enjoy this format you really should consider joining the well formula Network because this is sort of the QA thing that this is what we kind of do basically in our online private community wealth formula Network you know it starts with a course of course and then but really the most of the time is spent the the real value I think that most people are really excited about is the bi-weekly zoom video phone calls that we have check that out well formula roadmap com anyway just a just a quick plug there and hey maybe it's a nice Christmas gift to somebody that's that's not a bad idea right maybe you're just thinking well maybe what am I gonna get such-and-such and you know maybe they need to maybe they need to get a little smarter financially or something like that okay so let's get on with the questions today one question the first question just like last I'm gonna start with a generic question that I've been getting a fair amount of within the you know within the investor club which I think deserves some significant and legitimate attention to and that question is generic in that effectively it surrounds the concept of conservation easements you know what are they exactly are they you know dangerous from the standpoint of you know violating laws and things like that's right let me let me kind of back up and tell you what this is okay so conservation easements are it's an old law I don't I can't I don't know the entire history of it offhand it basically allows people to take you know large parcels of land they owns it's like farmland or you know whatever it is and you know with each piece of land that you own you have certain rights you know you have land rights mineral rights blah blah blah all this other stuff that you know if you've gone through any sort of real estate course in the past you probably have heard of but effectively what conservation easements are is it's basically a you know it's a way for a landowner to effectively commit to preserving that land from you know building or mining or drilling or whatever in in perpetuity and by designating a space as a conservation easement they get certain tax benefits now those tax benefits can be pretty profound so and they're based on you know evaluation of what the after mining or after building value of that piece of land would be so for example say there's a piece of land um and you know we're usually talking about thousands of acres at a time you know we're not talking about like you know I got an acre here and I want to do something with it so let's say Ted Turner for example owns you know 1/2 million acres some whom I heard you know and he's got Buffalo roaming on there and he's like you know what I use this for Buffalo but I'm not really gonna but I'm but I'm I'm not gonna build anything I'm not gonna put like a big Tower here I'm not going to drill for minerals and stuff I'm gonna dedicate this to a conservation easement so now if he does that and he gets a valuation of that land and the valuation says man if you had built a gigantic Resort here and have you drilled in mind over here this land would be worth X X X amount in theory that amount that theoretical amount is what is used as a deduction if the conservation easement election is made okay not what he paid for the land but what the land could be theoretically worth upon this dedication to conservation easement so in other words you could have a situation where you know a land land is purchased for you know let's say $1 and the valuation that it gets is you know five or six dollars so in that situation if it is if it is elected as a conservation easement then what will end up happening is the deduction is not for the one dollar paid for the land but for the five or six dollars that the valuation comes into so as you can imagine that's an enormous deduction so if you're talking about five six seven whatever it is you know it's leverage giving so it is a tremendous tremendously powerful tax benefit now here's the catch right so people been doing this for a long time it is made for farmers and farmers do it and you know that's a great deal for farmers or people who own land that they have no intention of building on because you're basically saying hey I mean I'm not really intending to build or you know drill on this land anyway I'm just gonna keep farming or I'm just gonna keep my horses there and and so so yeah I'm gonna do this and take my take my huge deduction and just by saying for sure I'm gonna preserve this land for good this land is preserved for good so the controversy is people have heard about comes to the fact that you know most people don't have you know hundred thousand acres to do this kind of conservation easement right so what do we do historically what have we done when we can't afford something on our own we still want to get involved well we participate in syndications okay so the controversy in this area revolves around the idea of conservation easements that are syndicated they're not just like one farmer saying I've got a you know whole bunch oh you know I've got 100 acres here and I want to do this it's like a bunch of investors getting together like they went on any development project and then making an election for conservation easement so the question it so the controversy is really around those syndicated things and and really here's the controversy right I mean because clearly that was not the intention of the law of the of having like all these individuals getting into syndications to do conservation easements but on the other hand I will argue and again I'm not an attorney and I'm not giving you advice that you're not breaking the law because there's nothing inherently wrong with participation in a syndication there's no laws that say you can't do it and what's the difference between one individual you know having land and and and dedicating it versus syndicated land and dedicating it so that's where the controversy is now the reality is that the IRS hates indicated conservation easements okay they hate them but here's the thing as yaris doesn't make laws Congress makes laws and right now conservation easements and you know syndicated conservation easements everything we do are legal so what ends up happening is every year at the end of the year you know the IRS ends up sending out these like oh we're gonna investigate such and such and we're gonna be harsh on this and and they might I don't know I'm not saying they're not but I'm just telling you that every year they do the same thing and I think a lot of people think well they're basically blowing smoke here because they can't really do a whole lot if things are being done legally so they're just throwing out these warnings to people don't participate because they don't want you to participate fundamentally the issue to me is that until Congress makes it illegal or put some certain additional limitations - this is really up to you I will tell you that you know I have participated in these things and furthermore I have been audited not because of the easements that I participated in but because but because of anybody who makes you know decent amount of money eventually they're gonna have some audits and a lot especially if you have a bunch of business activities like I do anyway I'll tell you in those situations what's happened is I participated with groups that you know doubted their eyes and cross their duties and they give me all the paperwork that I needed and I presented those as part of the audit and guess what nothing happened nothing happened right not to mention if something were you know going to happen with anything related to your conservation easement it it wouldn't be at your level it wouldn't be at the limited partner level you just have a k1 for the thing to be challenged at all it needs to be charged at the general partner level so bottom line is this is a complex issue it's an issue that I have decided personally that I feel like I'm gonna follow the law I'm not gonna follow the fear and because the worst case scenario in my opinion and the opinion of some smart people I know is there could be a decrease potential in valuation over a period of time in which case the potential downside turns into you know okay potentially you may have to pay up a little bit of money later but by that point you've already doubled the money that you saved that kind of thing anyway I'm not gonna tell you to do this and not going to tell you not to do this but the I think the things that you read about I think you just got to be smart and understand there's law and then there's you know there's different branches of government there's different parts of government there's the IRS there's a Congress try to try to be rational about that and know that you know if you're not doing anything illegal you should be just fine that's my opinion that's not advice okay so let me get to the first question from a discreet person and that is Eric Harmelin he says Buck what assets are investments other than owning real estate would you feel comfortable with to produce consistent cash flow well well here's the thing owning real estate equity is my favorite cashflow play because of the tax advantages upside which I've probably talked about numerous occasions throughout these last few episodes but if you don't care about the tax advantages and are looking for stable cash flow there are other options that might be relatively stable now specifically you know we talked to earlier about first liens on real estate and I think that's certainly a way to do it first liens on real estate especially if it is you know if you if you want to you know if say you say you've got if you're you're loaning out money just make sure that there's loan-to-value is significant and that you don't get you know screwed because all the markets went south and all this and you're holding property that significantly devalued and I will say also that even non-performing debt in in the right hands like a HP servicing might be a good option because in those situations those kinds of funds benefit from a down economy and as I've said before I am you know comfortable with George Newberry's you know roll out eh be servicing his ability to perform so that's something however there are other ways to you know do this kind of lending that don't involve real estate and that's another thing to think about and it actually might make sense if you know if all you have is real estate it might make sense to have collateral outside of the real estate markets if your primary investments are really all real estate related so in the past you know within an investor club we have presented opportunities for lending you know you know even with oil and gas drilling equipment as collateral so if you have a really big company that might honestly be a pretty pretty safe bet because you've got a you know you got a company with all this heavy-duty equipment I mean effectively it becomes almost like a no reasonably high rated bond in that situation the big thing honestly with all of these things that we're talking about is not a specific thing right I mean notes and one person's hands are very stable and another is they're not you know so the big thing with all this is to understand the underlying asset or fun and feel comfortable with it right because not all real estate of created the same nor the people who operate it you know not all debt is the same and the people who operate those funds are of varied skill sets as well and so we've got to get out of this mindset of you know our notes a far is real-estate safe and understand that you know in this space and this alternative space that we live in it is all about the operator it's all about the operations it is not so much about the asset and that makes it very good if you're in the right hands right um it's it anybody can take something that is a really good asset turn it into turn it into a lousy one by not operating it well you know if you're in a credit investor you're probably seeing some of these things that I'm talking about coming by but if you you don't you know certainly join and you are accredited then join the accredited investor group bed well formula calm go to investor club all right next question is from Jason like this is Jason back from the rock arkansas again wanted to get some feedback from you on oil and gas investments I know you've had some recent webinars on that and covered that topic son as we approach yours in I think a lot of us are going to be looking at active taxable income that we would like to find some at Bain and John and wanted to see what your overall take on the oil and gas investments was get some feedback on that from in green Thanks good question Jason and you know I mean at the end of the year here right I mean this is really going back to you know if you're a high paid w2 investor you have active income you don't have a lot of ways to write off money against your wages and you know get a return you know that as we've talked about before I mean one of the things that you can potentially do is conservation easements but again they are not without controversy and then of course there's you know no planned return on that it's basically one and done oil and gas investments on the other hand are not controversial at all in the sense that the government actually logs for you to do them and there is no you know there's there's no nobody's saying otherwise you know the reality is that the the IRS has made this the guy who the you know the Congress has made this an initiative to to keep dependence on foreign oil to a minimum and the fact that the tax benefits are so compelling is what's ultimately led the u.s. to become the number one oil exporter in the world and that's why you know my CPA and yours I know Tom wheelwright calls the tax code a series of incentives right if you do what the government wants you to do it will likely save on taxes that's the bottom line so with oil and gas because as much depreciation right now in many cases you'll be able to write off the full amount of your investment against any income including w2 income which is what most high paid professionals get so in other words say you make five hundred thousand dollars per year of active income and you invest a hundred thousand dollars in oil and gas you'll get taxed and four hundred thousand dollars instead of five hundred thousand dollars because you basically knock that off you deduct ducted that up for your top line and then the cash flow you get from the oiling gas drilling we'll also have some tax sheltered to it I believe it's something like 15 percent of the cash flows so just from your investment in this scenario right of a hundred thousand dollars if you're in the highest tax bracket you you would have saved probably about you know at least $40,000 in other words 40% return on investment immediately right so when you hear that in a of course in you know you're you're hearing us for the first time or you're new to this the idea you see gosh what's not to love in theory I would tell you that I I couldn't agree more but the devil is in the details just like anything else we go back to the idea of operators we talk about you know who's going to actually drive these assets to profitability right so first of all drilling for oil is inherently riskier as you can imagine than something like real estate right just think about it I mean what are you doing you're basically you know you're you're taking the you know obviously there's ways to significantly improve that technology now but I mean if there's no if there's no oil there's no money the next issue is that this space this oil and gas space I have to tell you and this is very true and Tom wheeler I'll tell you the same thing is there you know this is an area that's full of charlatans and people who are happy to take your money slap on a bunch of fees and hey give it a shot with the drill right if they get lucky then everyone wins everybody makes money if they don't they still win with the fees that they slapped on and they didn't have a bunch of money that they lost themselves so it's not a bad deal for them either and the reality is that that describes the majority of the operators I've worked with or at least that I've you know vetted tried to vet in the space it's not a pretty group now that's not to say that you know there's not some good one so we just had a presentation as you know with an investor club for accredited investors with a group that I that I do think is legitimate and one of the things that I really like about that group in particular was they were investing the operators on 50% of you know the capital that was going into these 50% of the equity that was going into the fund was from the operator themselves right and that tells me that the group is trying to make money by by actually finding oil not by just you know racking up the fees so if I was going to invest in oil and gas myself as I have done in the past when I actually had more of an active income you know with more of an issue that's the kind of group I would look for and in the reality I mean I do have active income that said I I happen to be a real estate professional so I get all the same benefits from investing in real estate basically because bonus depreciation can be used to write off all all my sources of income including active sources so listed real estate at the end of the day definitely less risky and I understand it very well so for me it's a no brainer but if I had a bunch of active income that and I didn't have the real estate professional designation I would certainly consider oil and gas with the right group and but the right group is the key is absolutely the key I can't even tell you you know and that's sort of the theme so far in this this podcast is it's not just the asset it's not just a building it's not just notes right this isn't like you know going to merit rate and investing in Apple stock per se because there's only one kind of Apple stock if you invest in oil and gas you have all sorts of different you know operators out there and you got a pic you know you got to pick one that gives you the highest chance of success okay next question is from Josh hey buck wanted to take a minute to thank you and your guests on your podcast for sharing the information you do because I really learned a lot I appreciate that I also wanted to ask a question regarding Roth IRAs I have a Roth IRA that is basically sitting in a brokerage fund or a brokerage account I can't really contribute more because of my income and so I'm considering cashing it out and putting it towards a syndication deal my question is should I have considered putting it towards towards the deal or putting it into a wealth formula banking account and I guess I'm wrestling with what I should do there and whether it makes sense to just go straight into a deal or put it into a wealth formula banking account so curious on your thoughts on that thank you very much thanks Josh so for those who are unclear about Josh's question I don't think he's talking here about simply choosing between two different potential investments which is you know either a syndication or wealth formula banking what he's asking is if he should put the money in a vault formula banking policy first and then borrow from it so why would he do that well let's review the idea is that well formula banking with that he would start getting a 5% or better compounding rate on his cash value and he'd start getting that in as little as a couple of months he could turn around and borrow the cash value within that account and and redeploy it into a real estate investment right so you might ask why well Josh knows I guess from the from the question you can tell that borrowing from his cash value is actually not borrowing from his own cash value what he's doing when he borrows money from wealth formula banking is that he's borrowing money from the insurance company as general general account and he's there using his money in his cash value as collateral why is that important because when because his money is growing at a compounding rate in his cash value account but when he borrows from the insurance company he is he is borrowing at a simple interest rate and when he does that it effectively he's growing capital in two places at the same time if he then goes and deploys that simple rate capital into something else that's growing at a higher rate he's using the loan as arbitrage essentially to juice up other investments so it's a strategy we talk a lot about a lot of people are using it in our group and as for the answer to your specific question Josh it's really up to you listen if there's a deal you want to get in right now then you might not have you know the time to set this up etc but if you are thinking about this as a long-term strategy which I you know this really is only a long-term strategy right this is not you know this is one of those things that gets better and better over time it's like it's startup business right I you know if if that's the goal I would just say you know listen just allocate a certain amount of money there and stick with the plan start using it because you're not never it's never going to be a perfect time right to start allocating to this as opposed to a deal and as you know I'm certainly an advocate for this kind of you know strategy so anyway bottom line is who doesn't want to improve your returns right so I think if you're if you're you know long-term goal is to do that then by all means at some point you gotta pull the trigger on the banking policy now I will say about the Roth thing that comes to mind too is you know I'm not you know the question of whether you cash out your IRA and stuff obviously you're gonna have some penalties and so on and so forth one thing that comes to mind that I think is interesting that some people have used these conservation at easement techniques to the tax penalty for four convert for basically cashing out Roth IRAs and actually from and actually from converting you know regular higher raise to Roth IRAs as well so that's just as another aside another kind of ninja technique that a lot of folks in our group are using okay um next question this is a final question so it comes from Kenny French he says I am currently working with rod Zabriskie to set up a wealth formula banking policy so everything is been going pretty smoothly with one exception one of the features that I really like about the life insurance policy is that it offers a way to have money grow that is protected from creditors I agree with that it really gives me peace of mind to know that I'll have a good chunk of money set aside for my family that can tour at least it's very difficult for creditors or anyone else to touch looking how to hold policy in a trust LLC personally etc I found out that California where I live as terrible protections for life insurance policies yes it's true they only exempt very small amount less than $20,000 from a little bit of research I did it looks like a Nevada trust may be the way to go either way I think this would make for a good podcast topic to do a bit deeper dive into ok so Kenny Kenny actually wrote this question I asked him if I could just read it and as it turns out because it's a really good question okay and it's something to think about and I am a California resident as well and and so I wanted to make sure that we did address this and so rather than try to give you my own you know specific humble opinion on this I actually consulted asset protection attorney and friend of mine Doug laud mal by the way if you have not picked up a copy of Doug's webinar on asset protection it's for free go to you know go to well formula calm and there's an asset protection webinar and there they does a really good job sort of talking from you know basics to to advance and I'm you know Doug is a really smart guy he's my asset protection attorney so he writes back so I wrote Doug and and forwarded your question basically and here's what he wrote back he said this is an interesting topic life insurance in many states is already a protected asset so that so that is the default by which the insurance people sell it as Kenny states in some cases it is not protected at all like California in that case life insurance turns into just an asset like any other and must be put into an asset protected vehicle what does he mean by that basically like an LLC right but because it is life insurance there is an additional consideration of what happens when the policy pays out and how that affects the state for that reason there is also an additional choice which is an islet I li T otherwise that stands for irrevocable life insurance trust so he created this flowchart for me but basically here's the deal the issue is that since life insurance has a death benefit which could impact your estate size this must be or be a primary driver for where you hold it we talked a little bit about estate planning in the last a spec Peppa sowed so go back and listen to that but you know the numbers for for estate estate taxes is pretty high so but but it will affect a number of you so bottom line is he continues if the death benefit will create or increase in a state tax then the policy should be held by either an eyelid or another completed gift type trust like a dynasty trust a dynasty trust for example in Nevada dynasty trust is he kind of alluded to now if the death benefit will not affect the estate tax because the total estate is below the exemption then I would suggest using the asset protection structured to hold the insurance if you are not in a state with good protections got it so basically he's saying he's saying that if you're you know so if your first check on your state state gives you enough protection then don't worry about it if your state does you know if if your state is not giving you enough protection and you know you you're not looking at in a state that's gonna be basically over ten million or whatever then automatically you can go directly and say okay you can just put this in an LLC okay now he goes on to say it also matters if the insured is using the life insurance as savings vehicle and we'll need for it for retirement if so then it is better in the asset protection plan and again this is important right so many people in this space of course that we're talking about do do like the idea of eventually using these funds as a retirement plan so the the LLC ownership or personal ownership if you don't need the LLC is really sort of the ideal measure there now he does go on to say the issue with the dynasty Trust is that you are giving the assets away so if you plan on needing them this could create a conflict also remember an asset protection trust can convert into a dynasty trust at death so this is really the most flexible tool for most clients anyway so that that to me sounds like the best you know the best the best possible sort of scenario and honestly I kind of wish I'd known about that because I probably would have done that I actually haven't had a dynasty trust myself I use it for asset protect - so in this situation it sounds like you could set up an LLC that basically triggers into a dynasty trust upon death in which case you know you don't need it for retirement anymore right so gosh that's a really good idea so what I would suggest is if that sounds of interest to you reach out to Doug because he is he's the guy to set that kind of thing up anyway hopefully that makes sense Kenny it sounds like in your situation bottom line is you know you know maybe touch base with Doug or you know with another asset good asset estate planning attorney and mention this idea that Doug's talking about which is okay I live in California and you know I may have an estate estate tax issue at some point five or ten million at some point hopefully you do because that means you're doing well and say I want to put set this up as an asset protection type LLC that holds the insurance at first and then I want it to trigger into a dynasty trust upon my death good stuff I learned something there too so thanks for asking that question Kenny anyway that is all the questions I have now for the three episodes of ask Buck one two and three hopefully you enjoyed it hopefully you got something out of it and I want to thank you for giving me all those questions because I think you know these sort of you know you know going back and looking at all the information we have and asking questions really helps really helps for people to process the information so you know start asking those questions put them on ask Buck as soon as you have them um now we may not play them for a couple months but as soon as you got new BOTS or UPS on any of what we've talked about in the last three episodes or in any of the podcasts that will come up or as time goes by go to ask Buck ask the questions preferably yeah because it's more fun that way and let's let's do some you know collective learning together through this anyway again this has been my pleasure the last three episodes in and starting next week we will go back to a format of me interviewing somebody else for a while and and until then this is Buck Joffrey with Wealth Formula Podcast signing off.
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How should states regulate daily fantasy sports?

Some background: In 1992, Congress passed the Bradley Act, which outlawed sports betting nationwide (with the exception of Nevada, preexisting state lotteries, and horse/dog racing). Later in 2006, Congress passed UIGEA, which essentially banned internet gambling in the United States. However, UIGEA carved out an exemption for fantasy sports as a “game of skill”. In 2006, fantasy sports betting was not necessarily what it is today – they were mostly small scale and played between private individuals.
This existing legal climate was complicated by the rise of FanDuel and DraftKings, two competing fantasy sports operators which took the games to a new level, and allowed them to be played daily rather than over a season.
Critics have begun pointing out that fantasy sports are more and more resembling traditional gambling, and many users have addiction problems. The operators remain mostly unregulated – and I encourage everyone to watch this PBS/NYT documentary to understand the current situation.
Now, the issue is playing out on the state level. Some states, like Massachusetts and Colorado, have set up systems to license and regulate fantasy sports operators. Others, like Texas, are currently attempting to classify the games as illegal gambling. Texas AG Ken Paxton has already forced FanDuel to shut down, although the issue is yet to be discussed in the Texas Legislature. In some states, daily fantasy sports are already illegal.
Now, in this thread I don’t want to argue over the merits of the Bradley Act or UIGEA or generally if the US should legalize online gambling. Instead, what should state legislatures do about daily fantasy sports? Should they formally legalize and regulate? If so, what regulations are appropriate and how could gambling abuse be curtailed? Should states use daily fantasy sports as a revenue raising opportunity? If so, how? Which of the state models are most promising?
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Official "Where do I bet on the Kentucky Derby" post

Welcome to all of our new subscribers. It is at this time of year that our subscriptions increase quite a bit, and one of the more common question that gets asked is "Who should I bet on?"
The other question that is asked is "Where can I bet on the horse(s) that I want to bet on?"
This guide is then for you.
Understand that the guide below is not all inclusive, and is geared toward the US.
Also, I am not an attorney, I cannot give you legal advice on if you should bet or not bet or if it is legal in your jurisdiction, and none of the links below are referral links, and I do not receive any compensation for providing these links.
In the United States, there are roughly four ways to place a bet on a horse race.
Online Wagering Locations :

USA

BITCOIN

CURRENTLY A WORK IN PROGRESS I KNOW ITS WRONG

Here's a table to give you an idea of what's available in your state.
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Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California ✔*
Colorado ✔*
Connecticut
Delaware ✔*
Florida
Georgia ✔*
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming
  • OTB Locations sourced from OTB.US
  • For most on-line betting sites, the State Restrictions are based on the State you are currently located in (logged in from), not your State of residence. Please choose the state you are currently located in, from the list on the left, to see restrictions for that state.
✔* - This state does allow online wagering, but some tracks are excluded
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[FIGHT PREVIEWS] Miguel Vazquez vs Denis Shafikov, Zou Shiming vs Yokthong Koietgym, Daniel Geale vs Garth Wood, Hank Lundy vs Angelo Santana, the Boxcino tournament, Ik Yang vs Petchsamthur Duanaaymukdahan + more

Monday February 17

From Salinas Storm House, Salinas, California
Time: 7:00 PM PST, 10:00 PM EST, 3:00 AM GMT
Television: Fox Sports 1 (USA)
Fight Thread: Yes
##Manuel Avila 13(5)-0 vs Enrique Quevedo 15(9)-6-1
10 rounds
super bantamweight division
Salinas, California was the setting for John Steinbeck’s (and later Elia Kazan’s) critically acclaimed East of Eden. The movie starred James Dean as a troubled teen looking for a place where he belonged in a world where his mother was estranged and his brother was the perfect son in the eyes of his father. Salinas will have another 15 minutes of fame this Monday, and Avila will need a breakout performance on the level of James Dean to put Salinas back on the map. Or at least himself. Avila is only 21 and still very green and early in his development. He’s a big super bantamweight who I imagine will settle at featherweight. Quevedo is a tough Mexican who’s been in with tougher opponents than Avila and should be a good test.

Paul Mendez 14(6)-2-2 vs Raul Casarez 20(9)-4

10 rounds
middleweight division

Wednesday February 19

From Horden Pavilion, Moore Park, New South Wales, Australia
Time: 6:15 PM EDT, 11:15 PM PST (2/18), 2:15 AM (2/19)
Television: Main Event (AUS)
Fight Thread: Yes

Daniel Geale 29(15)-2 vs Garth Wood 12(8)-3-1

12 rounds
middleweight division
They’re actually fighting for Pan Pacific and a Pan African title, but they have no bearing on the world title scene. 32 year old Daniel Geale is coming off a tough loss that could have went either way against Darren Barker. The last time he’d lost was against Anthony Mundine back in 09 and since then had built a solid reputation as one of the best middleweights in the world. He avenged his loss to Mundine (which was a split decision the first time around), beat Sebastian Sylvester for the IBF middleweight title, beat Osumanu “Good Boy” Adama over 12 rounds, and the biggest win of his career, he went into Germany and beat Felix Sturm on the cards. If you don’t know what that’s like, it’s similar to beating Bowser in Mario Tennis on his home court. Geale is as tough as they come, although he didn’t begin his career that way. Early on he was a bit chinny and was dropped many times. He either learned defense or moving to middleweight was a big help as he hasn’t been dropped since 2008.
His opponent is Garth Wood. Wood was originally supposed to fight Martin Murray on the Monte Carlo card a couple weeks ago. Wood is an exlusively Australian fighter who’s got a very impressive win over Anthony Mundine… actually, it’s not. Mundine was winning just about every second of the fight before Wood landed this ridiculous uppercut that knocked Mundine out. It was one of those body-stiffening punches. Frankly, I understand the reason for Geale taking the fight. This is probably a big deal in Australia, but I think Geale could have easily gotten a fight with any of the top middleweights out there. He didn’t get wiped out against Barker and in fact performed with a ton of grit and heart. I really look forward to a fight between Golovkin and Geale.

Thursday February 20

From Centro de Convenciones Figali, Panama City, Panama
Time: ?
Television: TV Max Channel 9 (Panama)
Fight Thread: No

Luis Concepcion 30(22)-3 vs Carlos Fontes 17(14)-1

12 rounds
WBC silver flyweight title
Panamanian Concepcion is riding a bit of a winning streak since getting stopped by Tyson Marquez. He’s won 7 straight fights and stopped 4 of his opponents. But let’s not start thinking about putting Concepcion in with the big boys at flyweight. His opponents have been just good enough to look good, but not good enough to convince me he’s ready to get back on the world level. They’ve all lacked pop or world experience. The other thing is that flyweight is stacked right now. Akira Yaegashi sits on top and it seems we’re finally going to get the fight we’ve all been wanting, as he will take on the arguable (I don’t buy it, many do) #2 flyweight in the world, Roman Gonzalez. Even if Concepcion wanted the leftovers, Juan Francisco Estrada would gladly take him and so would heavy handed Giovani Segura. So, Concepcion still has a ways to go. He’s definitely got a case to be in the top 10 at flyweight, but I’m not sure if he’ll ever hold another title. One thing is certain though. Concepcion will never be in a dull fight.

Friday February 21

From Dover Downs Hotel & Casino, Dover, Delaware
Time: ?
Television: Not televised
Fight Thread: No

Ray Robinson 16(7)-2 vs Aslanbek Kozaev 25(7)-0-1

10 rounds
welterweight division
Well… it’s not that Ray Robinson. It’s The New Ray Robinson. Seriously, that’s his nickname. He’s from Philly and his only losses have come against undefeated fighters. So bet the house on Kozaev. Actually, I wouldn’t. Robinson is the favorite and is arguably a top 30 welterweight.
From Edgewater Hotel & Casino, Laughlin, Nevada
Time: 6:00 PM PST, 9:00 PM EST, 2:00 AM GMT
Television: ESPN2 (USA)
Fight Thread: Yes

Yakubu Amidu 21(19)-4-2 vs Chris Rudd 12(8)-1

6 rounds
lightweight division
Art Pellulo’s Banner Promotions has put together a tournament. One in the lightweight division and one in the middleweight division. I think Amidu is the dark horse in this tournament. He’s tough as hell and beat Juan Carlos Burgos on one judge’s scorecard last summer in an outdoor fight when it was 100 degrees in Southern California. Rudd lacks experience and enters the tournament after suffering his first career loss. A win here (and ultimately the tournament) would be Rudd’s coming out party.

Fedor Papazov 14(9)-0 vs Peter Petrov 32(15)-4-2

6 rounds
lightweight division
Papazov has a hilarious nickname. It’s ‘Knockout Man.’ Petrov’s claim to fame is that he was knocked out by Maidana back in 2011. I think Knockout Man has this one in the bag.

Miguel Gonzalez 22(16)-3 vs Miguel Angel Mendoza 21(21)-2-2

6 rounds
lightweight division
Many people will look at Mendoza’s record and immediately say ‘yep, that’s the favorite. The dude with all the knockouts. His hands must compare to cinderblocks.’ Except that his 3 opponents he’s faced with decent records either knocked him out or beat him easily (or the fight was stopped after 3 rounds on a draw). Gonzalez on the other hand is nicknamed Silky Smooth. He was shut out against Mike Dallas Junior, but... actually, I was going to try to make a case for him winning, but I can’t. This should be a fun fight.

Fernando Carcamo 15(12)-5 vs Samuel Kotey Neequaye 21(15)-0

6 rounds
lightweight division
Neequaye is my pick to win this thing. He’s undefeated and made it to the Beijing Olympics (albeit not very far.) Carcamo seems to lose every time he gets on a roll and given that he’s won 5 straight by stoppage, he’s probably due for the upset.
From Twin River Event Center, Lincoln, Rhode Island
Time: ?
Television: Not televised
Fight Thread: No

Glen Johnson 53(36)-18-2 vs Jamie Velasquez 11(6)-5-2

8 rounds
light heavyweight division
Yep, Glen Johnson is back. I know Johnson’s time is done, especially at the elite level, but I gotta give it to him. In the past 5 years he’s fought the top opposition out there. He’s fought George Groves (L), Andrzej Fonfara (L), Lucian Bute (L), Carl Froch (L, a majority decision at that!), Tavoris Cloud (L), and Chad Dawson (L). Even in defeat, does anyone have a better resume?

Alvin Varmall Jr 1(1)-0 vs Andre Ward 1(1)-1-4

4 rounds
cruiserweight division
Is this serious? Is Andre Ward trying to pull a fast one on us? He’s gotten fat and is trying to make a run at cruiserweight?
From Wolstein Center, Cleveland, Ohio
Time: 7:45 PM PST, 10:45 PM EST, 3:45 AM GMT
Television: Showtime (USA)
Fight Thread: Yes

Angelo Santana 14(11)-1 vs Henry ‘Hank’ Lundy 23(11)-3-1

10 rounds
lightweight division
We haven’t seen Hank Lundy since last summer when we all thought Olusegun Ajose would either wipe him out or give us a fight of the year candidate given his performance against Matthysse. Not the case. Lundy pulled off a landslide win snapping a 2 fight losing streak. Lundy has 3 losses, but they’re to solid opponents and Santana would do well not to overlook Lundy. Santana is a Don King fighter (this is a Don King card if you wanted to boycott it) and a Cuban defector. Santana had been on a 7 fight knock out streak before he himself got knocked out against little known Uzbekistanian Bahodir Mamadjonov in his most recent fight. All we can hope for here is a good fight.

Amir Imam 12(11)-0 vs Jared Robinson 14(6)-0

10 rounds
light welterweight division
This is the battle of 2 undefeated guys with great nicknames. It’s the Young Master vs The Quiet Storm. I’ll leave it to you to guess which is which.

Saturday February 22

From Celebrity Theater, Phoenix, Arizona
Time: 7:00 PM PST, 10:00 PM EST,
Television: Live streamed (and free) at www.iron-boy.com
Fight Thread: Yes

Alexis Santiago 15(7)-3-1 vs Hanzel Martinez 20(16)-1

10 rounds
bantamweight division
This fight has drama and excitement written all over it, and given it's being streamed online, should be an easy choice for anyone looking for some fight action this Saturday night. Santiago has 3 losses on his record. All 3 losses came against undefeated opponents. His last loss was back in the summer of 2012 and now he’s riding a 4 fight in streak that includes stoppages in his last 2 fights. His opponent, Hanzel Martinez, isn’t so hot right now. Although he won his last fight, the one before it was a 2nd round knockout loss in his first real step up in competition. Santiago, in my estimation, is on par with the man who stopped Martinez. These are 2 young guys fighting for their future in the sport. A film crew chronicled the training camp of Alexis Santiago as he prepared for the bout and can be seen here.

Siarhei Liakhovich 25(16)-6 vs Chad Davis 5(1)-11

8 rounds
heavyweight division
Liakhovich is one fight removed from a fight with Deontay Wilder and if you're wondering why the former heavyweight titlist is facing an inexperienced opponent with more losses than wins, perhaps it's because Liakhovich has been stopped in his last three fights and has won 2 fights in his last seven. This could either be a new start for the 37 year old or maybe a last grab at a small bit of glory.
From Ice Arena, Hull, Yorkshire, UK
Time: 2:00 PM PST, 5:00 PM EST, 10:00 PM GMT
Television: Sky Sports (UK)
Fight Thread: Yes

Tommy Coyle 17(7)-2 vs Daniel Brizuela 25(8)-2-2

12 rounds
IBF international lightweight title
I like Coyle a lot. He’s got obvious vulnerabilities and boxes well enough to compensate most of the time. Brizuela is a perfect opponent for him. He’s fought mostly in Argentina and isn’t a big punching threat.

Darren Hamilton 14(3)-2 vs Curtis Woodhouse 21(13)-6

12 rounds
BBBofC british light welterweight title
This is a typical fight that has warranted a lot of criticism of Frank Warren and Eddie Hearn (who is promoting this card.) It’s a 12 round fight with 2 guys who aren’t big punchers. Woodhouse is a bit chinny and prone to being outboxed, but he’s also as tough as they come. I don’t know much about Hamilton other than he’s got a UD win over Ashley Theophane. I expect Hamilton to pull off the win.

Gavin McDonnell 10(3)-0-1 vs Leigh Wood 11(4)-0

12 rounds
vacant BBBofC british super bantamweight title
McDonnell has mostly fought inexperienced opposition with a few losses on their record until this point. Wood has faced experienced guys with a ton of wins and losses on their record. It should be an interesting fight, and I believe Wood has more upside of the 2 (though I favor McDonnell here.) Interesting note is that Leigh Wood’s nickname is Leigh-thal. Ik Yang needs a cool nickname like that.

Luke Campbell 4(3)-0 vs Scott Moises 8(2)-8-1

8 rounds
lightweight division
Campbell is one of boxing’s hottest prospects. Not in that way. I mean, Campbell won gold at the London games and my dream scenario would be for him to face Lomachenko somewhere down the line for a lightweight title. Eddie Hearn is doing a good job with Campbell. He’s not rushing him into anything and allowing him to develop as a professional. He doesn’t have the pedigree that Lomachenko does and has thus far fared very well as a pro. He’s a long southpaw, he’s quick, and puts combinations together nicely. If I had a criticism of him, it’s that he doesn’t move his head that much and looks a bit rigid. I’m sure this will change as he develops. Don’t let his baby face fool you. This guy can snatch the body with the best of them.
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Happy New Year and a Friendly Reminder

Hello everyone. I hope your 2013 is a lucky and profitable one.
And the friendly reminder - my ban hammer is swift and merciless.
Just recently, I noticed this post, which alleges that Derby Jackpot is
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The posting account and the apparent shill accounts upvoting it were banned as soon as I could, as affiliate links are in violation of our specific reddit's Submission Rules.
And for further clarification:
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The website states that the only legal way to gamble online is by betting on horseracing, not that this website is the only legal way to bet on horseracing in the US. (A nitpick, yes, but just to clarify).
2) Derby Jackpot is licensed and regulated by the Oregon Racing Commission as a marketing affiliate of Ebet Technologies INC.
They claim that DerbyJackpot is a real money social game based on live US horse races. There are as many as 300 races per day in the US, and it is legal to bet and win real money online. Current sites are geared toward professional players and are complicated. DerbyJackpot simplifies the experience to capitalize on the underserved market of casual gamblers in the US.. I don't even know WTF that means.
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(As a side note, TwinSpires allows gambling in some of the states that Derby Jackpot does not).
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[Table] IamA stripper in Las Vegas AMA!

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Date: 2014-03-01
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Questions Answers
What is the weirdest request you have got from someone before? One time this guy who was about 40 offered me money to come to his hotel room so that he could dry hump me Bad Teacher style. OP did not deliver.
Do you do any drugs with the clients? If so, which drugs? One time I did cocaine out of another strippers buttcrack.
I have brought shame to my family.
That's some in the moment type of shit. (pun intended) AYYY!
AYYY WE WANT SOME PUUUSSSAAAYYY. AYYY I DON'T WORK AT ANY FULL NUDE CLUBS BUT YOU CAN SEE MY BOOOBAAAYYYS.
I want to get a dance from you if i ever make it to las Vegas :b. Fo sho! Just send me a message if you're ever in town!
Do you ever get turned on at all by your job? I know most guys are probably older overweight gentlemen but do you ever get the occasional young hot bachelor... ? There are some pretty hot guys that come in. I accidentally made out with one before. I blame it on the a a a a alcohol.
Is there sex in the champaign room? It depends where you are and what kind of stripper you're with. I do not sex anyone in the champagne room.
Why not? You were an escort before, no? Nooo. I booked their calls for them in a tiny office, handled the agency's cut of the money, posted online ads, etc. Its never the girl in the picture-- by the way.
Oh, I thought you worked AS an escort. Its never the girl in the picture. I know...I mean...that's what I heard. HAHA!
I used to collect hundreds of those pictures and then put them all over my brothers suite and also leave a huge stack in his bag so when he got home he'd find them. Do those girls even exist? I think most of them are porn stars. But they are not existing escorts in Las Vegas.
Well, not in the cards but some of the sites are legit, and you can find real girls on the review sites. Or just stand in the hotel lobby and look like you have money after 10pm. Right! Most of the sites that are legit require some sort of monthly/annual fee though. Hotel lobbies are definitely your best bet!
you got downvoted for answering my question.. Nice! Haha! Well hopefully I can prevent at least one disappointed man when he opens his hotel room door.
What has been your favorite experience in your career so far? Least favorite? One night I met some child of a rich Canadian oil man and he had dad's credit card. He got really drunk and just sat in the champagne room and talked to me for about 4-5 hours. I made $2900 that night. I cried when I went home. Least favorite? One time this Indian guy walked into the champagne room and just pulled his dick out. I quickly left the champagne room.
Why'd you cry? I have never made that much money in a day before. Probably even a week. I got home and laid in it.
No no he forgot his turban and was only going to put his snake away... wherever that would've been. Some sort of foreign snake holding fanny pack?!
Why aren't you in India selling an amazing invention you just thought of, and living in a palace eating plastic grapes??!!! I... I don't know?
*raises hand* When do we start making meth? We have to cook, Jesse!
How do you handle it if a guy cums in his pants during a lapdance? I've only felt it happen once and I doused myself in antibacterial liquid after. Thanks for the repressed memories though, buddy.
I'm betting it's happened more than once, I had friends that worked in the strip clubs in SF, they said dudes come in there pants all the time, said you could see it in there eyes and how all the sudden they where ready to split. HAHA in their eyes! It probably has happened more than once but that's the only time my leg has come in contact with the actual wet spot. Man, even talking about it UGH.
What's your average day like? I wake up around 1 or 2, eat food, watch Netflix, go to class and then go to work. I'm a pretty big homebody.
What classes do you take? Right now I'm taking English, Russian and philosophy.
English, Russian and philosophy.
How do you feel a move to dollar coins instead of dollar bills would affect the stripping industry? I would be very unhappy if someone threw a coin at me on stage.
That's what we throw at strippers in Canada. It's way more fun. Aaaand that's why I've only had sex with one Canadian.
How much of the movie strippers life is it reality? Drugs/sex/single mothers etc... Eh, it definitely plays it up quite a bit. Depending on which club you work, you might find a higher percentage of single mothers, drugs, sex. The more popular and higher class clubs I'd say have less single mothers, more drugs. The smaller clubs usually have more single mothers, less drugs, less partying because they're actually working to pay for their child. At least this has been my experience so far.
How much would you say you make on a typical night? It depends. I've made $2900 in a night before and I have also left -50. You have to pay a "house fee" to go to work which can range from like 20-80 a night. If you don't make it back, you're just out of luck. Normally between 400-600.
Eight hundred dollars a month to pee in a cup? I don't care what you do with it, sign me up. Fuck yeah! I have to pee right now! But the whole getting out of bed thing... and I don't have a Dixie cup.
Do you have any regrets about your decision? About stripping? No. I regret taking so long to come out of my shell at work. I used to super quiet and kind of hide in the corner, make about $100. I do usually end up regretting how much I drank at work the night before though.
Prior to Vegas, did you have any experience in the sex industry? I did not!... unless Hooters counts. I worked there for about three years.
How was the money and environment there? It was cool. It was right on the beach in Maryland so we'd just walk over and swim after shifts. Girls are fucking assholes sometimes but we all already knew that.
Cheesy question, but do you have Daddy Issues? (i.e how is your relationship with your dad?) No daddy issues here.. not unless they're super underlying. My dads a cool guy.
Who is the most famous person you've ever danced for and were they a good client? Haha god its a stretch on "famous" but I met Johnny Richter from Kottonmouth Kings at the Rhino a few months ago. Very cool guy.
Also, Happy Birthday! I hope it's a wonderful day for you! A few more questions: -What got you into this profession in the first place? -What are your plans for after stripping? Do you plan to stop? Thank you! I'm going to school right now for international languages. One day I hope I'm good enough to be a translator. I plan to stop some time before I start to stretch the age limit. I do not ever want to be THAT stripper. I started dancing for the money, before this I was broke and living in a one bedroom apartment with another girl. We shared a mattress.
International languages! Yeee!
Are you sure this isn't the plot to Showgirls? Showgirls was actually filmed at one of the clubs that I regularly work at!
Yeah, I've heard Very Bad Things about bachelor parties... Some are probably very genuine. However, if you ask for one girl she may be a little uncomfortable. Your best bet is to ask for AT LEAST two girls. That way theyll feel more obliged to go and feel entirely more comfortable.
What's unique about Vegas that wouldn't be normal/acceptable anywhere else? You can smoke just about anywhere... You can walk down the strip and drink straight from a bottle of whiskey.
Smoke what? Cigarettes. This ain't Colorado, man.
What is your passion in life? Languages! I've studied French, Spanish, Latin and ancient Greek so far (I used to be an archaeology major to explain the last two). I'm currently taking Russian.
Wow! Do you study for written translations primarily or are you learning/able to speak & understand the languages? Polyglots are awesome! Both! Listening and reading come far easier than speaking but I think this might be pretty common. At least if you're learning in a classroom as opposed to immersion. My French grammar is pretty off when I speak since I haven't studied it since high school but I can understand most of it if I'm reading or listening to someone talk to me.
I know French too! Bonjour!
Ca va? Edit: completed message. Comme ci, comme ca. J'ai froid.
Happy Birthday. Do I win anything? A lap dance.
What's your relationship with sexuality like? Are you a more reserved person in "real life"? Weeell it depends. I like to have sex but I don't sleep around. Lots of sex with one person.
How attractive does one have to be to be a stripper on a 10 point scale? It depends club to club. I've seen one of the most horrific individuals during a day shift at one of the smaller clubs, I'm talking -0/10. Someone on the club's yelp review called her a bridge troll I think. Rhino really has the reputation for best looking girls.
Were you familiar with pole dancing before you became a dancer or did you learn it while you worked? I was not. I also did not go on the pole for the first six months. Then one night at Hustler I got extremely belligerent and sucked it up and went on the pole. I've learned quickly though and most places you get to pick the music you dance to. It's pretty fun. Plus you make more money.
Just read the whole AMA and you are a very cool person! Wish you well in life! :) My question would be, how cool is your boyfriend about your job? Did you tell him or did he know beforehand? And since there are a lot of strippers at Las Vegas, I assume, what's the general mentality regarding strippers like? Thank you :) My boyfriend is very cool about it. I told him before we started dating and it didn't affect his opinion of me at all, which is great. He's very supportive. He understands that it's a job and I treat it as such. The general mentality of strippers is definitely the best in Las Vegas out of other places in the country besides maybe Portland. Most of the boys here grew up with lots of their classmates becoming strippers (some even their mothers) so its really not a big deal to them. Ive told boys before and have been met with a shrug or interested questions about the industry.
Now that you are in the industry, what's something that average people might not know? We get incredibly beat up on those poles. Especially crawling around on your knees on stage.. Those girls might be smiling but they are not having fun.
Tell them to wear knee pads! Only Jenna Jameson could get away with wearing knee pads when she was a stripper.
Have you ever been to Batista's Hole in the Wall in Las Vegas? Like, sergeant Batista? No I haven't. I don't get out much.
How many seconds can your titties defy gravity? Depends on the lunar cycle. Waxing Crescent? 10 seconds. Waning Gibbous? We're talking a full 30 seconds. At least.
Do you know the stripper that danced for Chris Hardwock and his girlfriend? Her name was "Jedi"? I don't think so but it's quite possible. Most strippers have different names at different clubs.
I LOVE the peppermint hippo in vegas, i have been carried out of there on more than one occasion - what's your advice for getting the best experience out of a visit to any stip club? I have also been carried out of there. Twins! Just be nice to the girl, and figure out what your boundaries are. Some girls will let you touch more than others. Also find a girl with nice boobies.
How do you find out the boundaries? Talk to her! If she's not vocal about it... move your hands up to grab a boob(s).
How would you describe your ideal client? Friendly, respectful and willing to drink. I luv me some whiskey.
Do you have a regular set of songs you dance to? Pet- A Perfect Circle Get Some- Chevelle The Mission- Puscifer :D.
Maynard fan? Well you're awesome I love Maynard. I don't ever drink wine but if I ever get my hands on Maynard's wine... I will drink it.
Love those songs. It seems like rock is a lot more popular in strip clubs (I’ve only been to 2) than one would assume compared to clubs etc.. Kind of a broad question but any idea why? I think sometimes those songs can be played off as very sexual. I myself have a bucket list to have sex to the entire White Pony album from Deftones.
This question concerns this more: took a job off of Craigslist booking calls for an escort agency. Any interesting stories from that job? This guy gave a girl $1700 to rub pie sensually all over his body. It was cream pie just to specify... I haven't looked at one the same since.
$1700? Wow, I've really been overpaying. EDIT: Thanks for answering by the way! HAHA!
Pics? Has to be. Confidential proof. I haven't told mom yet.
Are you ever going to tell her or is this one of those things you'll take to the grave? Grave. Maybe. We'll see.
Sure. You're at college in Vegas, bringing home up to $2900 a night. She doesn't know, I promise. Mom lives across the country and has no idea what kind money I bring home. (Also that was once in a year and a half). I don't make that kind of money a night. I'm going to school at the College of Southern Nevada.. it's not expensive.
How is your relationships with your parents? Super critical mother? Distant father? Are either of them very religious? Was your sexuality a point of shame when growing up? I have a great relationship with my parents! They're still together, no daddy issues, my mom was strict with grades but gave me just enough freedom to enjoy normal teen life. Neither of them are very religious. I experienced normal teen sexuality.
How do you deal with dancing for a person that creeps you out? (If that has ever happened) (Hands you a sprite. ) Ahaha thank you! I tend to avoid the creepier ones if I can help it. There used to be this guy at Cheetahs that would come in and would sit in the corner and smell terrible. He would also wear basketball shorts with no underwear. If I saw him coming... I would run.
FTFY. Should have seen that one com... cumming.
Oh that's good so you can ignore them. I always wondered about that! Yep! You're not obligated to dance for anyone.
Well I guess that would be memorable. What is the least favorite part of your job? Bruises. You get a whole lot of them swinging around on the pole.
Did you take classes to learn the pole or just learn by messing around? Nope no classes. I think its the same for most strippers. You just get drunk, get up there and figure this shit out!
You sound (read?) like an awesome person. And a question - do you work out? I gues dancing all night must be enough workout. Did you work out before? And at what age did you start? Thanks! I think about working out sometimes? Does that count? The pole is a great workout and I try to eat as healthy as possible. Emphasis on TRY. I used to swim competitively so I'm trying to get down to a pool a few days a week soon!
How did you start like If I wanted to be stripper what do I do? I see it's kind of freelancing so how does one makes his mind the first time to go pay a place and get naked? Well, in Las Vegas you have to first get a sheriffs card as well as a business license. Then you decide which club you're interested in working at (it might be multiple places). They let you audition and if you're hired, you can go in whenever you feel like working.
Do you think you will make more money as a college graduate than you do stripping? Do you have any intentions to continue stripping after you graduate? Hopefully! I hear translators make pretty decent money. I may or may not continue to strip after I graduate.. It's great money and I'd like to save up a good chunk before I get too old. I also really, really want to start traveling to some awesome places. And that takes dough.
Not really a fan of Elders Scrolls Online yet, doesn't seem to have too many similarities to the ES franchise. You going to play? I haven't played it yet.. but it's on my list. I just started Half Life 2 so maybe after!
Do you think having a prior career of stripping will impeed your future career in any way? I hope not but it potentially could. I don't broadcast it or put it on resumes, hence the confidential proof. But if I don't land a future job solely because they find out I was a dancer... I don't think I'd want to work there anyway.
Do you include working as a stripper in your resume? I do not. Employers tend to stereotype instead of actually taking a look at your qualifications.
What CSN campus are you at? I'm generally at Charleston, but this semester I'm doing the mandatory internship for my Associates, so I'm taking a break from generic classes. With any luck I'll be at UNLV in the Fall! I'm at the Charleston campus three days a week and for some reason I also scheduled a class down at Henderson (I live in Centennial). I am not a smart man.
What strip clubs in Vegas do you work at? Which ones are your favorite? I've worked at a good number of them.. Spearmint Rhino, Hustler, Treasures, OGs, Crazy Horse Too and Cheetahs. Spearmint Rhino is by far the nicest, but Cheetahs is my personal favorite.
Too classy for Little D's then? Haha I have plenty of friends that work there. Nothing against little D's, l just don't want to dance on poles other sweaty buttcracks have pressed against.
Dear nerdy stripper quoting Workaholics and naming her husky after Game of Thrones, are you single? If so, wanna have coffee sometime? Haha! I do have a boyfriend. But thank you! I have no problem grabbing a friendly cup of coffee though.
Have you ever been to Hawthorne, NV? It's a tiny town (about 1.5 x 1.5mi) a few hours north of Vegas. I have not! Is it cool?
It's just where my dad grew up! I've been there at least a dozen times (I'm 14 and live in South Carolina, and I know I probably shouldn't be on a stripper's AMA, but whatever). I just thought it would be cool if someone else had been there too because basically no one has. Thanks for responding! You have great grammar for a 14 year old! Have a good weekend!
I dated a stripper that worked at Club Paradise for a year, she always wanted me to come watch her work and I never did. Is it common among your friends to want their boyfriends to come into the club? I know a few girls that work there actually! I wouldn't say it's that common but I know a few girls who's boyfriends will sit at the bar and drink for her shift. It's kind of frowned upon at some clubs. I guess they think she'll spend too much time talking to her boyfriend or seeing her dance might cause a fight, etc. I personally wouldn't want my boyfriend in the club.
Would you ever date a customer? I ask because I'm the worst kind of client. The three times I've gone to a strip club I literally fall in love with the stripper. I end up talking to them for a long time without even really getting a dance. I've now realized the error of my ways. Makes me cringe just thinking about it. Wait you're in vegas...oh mah gerdd i hope you dont work at deja vu/sapphire. Also why is glitter gulch so shitty? It depends. If we really hit it off, maybe? I've hung out with customers outside of work at a bar to drink but only ever as friends. And if nothing else is going on we really don't mind sitting and talking! There's plenty of regulars that if I feel like it I'll sit and drink beers with them for an hour or two if it's slow. It's actually what makes the job fun! I've never worked at deja vu or sapphire! I'm hired at Rhino, Hustler, Treasures, Crazy Horse Too, OGs (ugh) and my favorite, Cheetahs. I've never been to Glitter Gulch but I've heard bad stories!
OGs? crazy horse? lmao I've lived here for 4 years and I had no idea there were that many strip clubs. Oh man. That's just the tip of the iceberg. There are tons of smaller ones too.
Do you have a SO? Does your job impact the relationships/experiences you have with people you get intimate with? My boyfriend is very cool about it. I don't think I would date someone that wasn't.
Have any of your classmates ever come in while you were working? was it awkward? Haha not yet! I'll let you know though!
I hear Strip Clubs often function as recruiting grounds for porn. Have anyone ever tried to get you to do porn while you've been working? Do any of the girls you work with do porn? Porn? No not really. I've been approached once MAYBE twice. I'd say a bigger problem is all of the pimps that come in trying to recruit for themselves. I get approached at least once a week for that. It's extremely annoying.
Sucks how you have to deal with that. I can sound how it would be annoying if not downright infuriating. Thanks for answering so quickly. I think I saw on this thread that it's your birthday so Happy Birthday!!! P.S. Awesome username. Love the Harry Potter reference. Thanks! I'm working tonight so hopefully I'll have a good birthday night!
Want to play some online video games with me? I see you've started to play Half-Life 2. I myself am a big fan of HL2. I've been playing Half Life on Xbox :( But if you ever play I'm a big fan of MW3 on ps3!
Are there any moments when the job got scary? Ex someone tried raping you or tried to harm you in any way. I've never had anything like that happen. We're very closely watched in the club, have our own parking lot where the bouncer escorts us in, etc. Some clubs are not as good about that but Cheetahs and Rhino are VERY particular about it. One time a waitress got punched?
Original xbox or 360? You can't go online for HL2 unless you download a mod right?
If i told you i wanted to Slytherinyocooch, would you give me a free lap dance? If not, would you just watch Harry potter movies with me? What if we just went all the fucking way and went to the Wizarding World?
Care to smoke a bowl with me? Heh. Surely!
Do you know Rohan or Ender at the Rhino? I do not. I don't go there too often so I don't know very many girls there. It's a nice club but I prefer smaller clubs.
How much do you make a year? A rough estimation. God that's hard to even estimate. It changes month to month. Also everyone earns differently.
Who are your favorite bands to listen to? I'm a big fan of Deftones, The Sleeping and A Perfect Circle.
Does your boyfriend ever come in and throw money at you? Haha no nooo.
Did you ever talk to a foreign stripper in terms of differences? Just curious since I'm from Germany here and I just can't make out any similarities to the things I see in US-related Stripclub appearances in the media. (Just been twice to a club though) That's interesting but no I haven't. Mainly the foreign girls that have worked with me started stripping after they got to this country. I'm gonna keep that in mind though I'd like to know too! From what I've heard the girls stand in windows, etc?
This really depends I guess. From what I know, at least in Germany, this is only done in prostitution-business, to show what's available. Btw. As I just read it. Your favorite whiskey? Maybe something I definitely should try and import to Germany? :D. I'm sure you guys have awesome whiskey over there! I wouldn't consider it a true, true whiskey but Fireball if you've never had it! It tastes like Big Red and will knock you on your ass.
They do stand in windows in the red light district in Amsterdam. That's what it is!
I knew a girl that would have a guy come in once a week and pay her $200 to piss in a dixie cup. She never knew exactly what he did with it, he would just leave with it. HAHA! I fucking believe it. When I was dispatching escorts a girl came back from a call where some guy paid her to walk on his chest in cleats. He then put the cleats back in the box and told her he was giving his niece that set of cleats for Christmas. Still gives me the heebie jeebies.
I lost it it PCP and how they were showing the video of him in the roof smoking while reading the list. By far one of the best episodes ever. That one and bieberhole69.
Hell ya, thats what I said. Does the Fenrir in your name have anything to do with Norse mythology? I was going to name my husky Fenrir.
It totally is, and that would be an awesome name for a husky. I went with Ghost after Jon Snow's direwolf. He's all white so it's perfect.
He was performing research for his thesis on substance abuse among adult entertainment workers. "Every employee has tested positive for: marijuana, mdma, pcp, Adderall, Dayquil, Nyquil--why would anyone take both? Nitrous oxide, Cialis and birth control. Thanks for bringing that up buddy, can't have kids! Don't need birth control!"
Love the Workaholics reference! Best show ever! I saw Blake when I was at the Fantasy Factory but didn't talk to him. I would have probably cried. And I didn't want to be known forever as the crying girl.
Круто, удачи вам! I don't have any Cyrillic on this shitty laptop but thank you!!
Advanced organic chemistry I took chemistry in high school... It was the only class I ever got a C in. I still don't even know what the fuck a mole is. Fuck chemistry.
It's a joke that strippers in Las Vegas probably aren't studying anything significant. Possible though, op should answer to find out. International Languages. I used to be an archaeology major, though. Greco-Roman.
Tell your dad some random guy on the internet thinks he's awesome. I shall!
What is the most you have made in a night or weekend. Also what is the most memorable night you have had as a stripper. One night I made $2900. Emphasis on one night, that's not very typical. Definitely the time I did cocaine out of stripper butt.
Tits or gtfo. Haha just kidding, thanks for stopping bye SPYRO! My favorite game ever growing up. I have every single one.
Team in town for training we get a night in vegas before we leave will have to look you up! Yes!
Do you have a daughter and is her name Kalilah? Nope. No spawn yet.
Do you feel ashamed about being a stripper or empowered? I'm not ashamed at all. It's actually helped my self esteem immensely.
Surely it can't be valid self esteem? Would you recommend being a stripper to all women? It's most definitely valid self esteem. I don't mean just getting the attention from men, either. I think just about every girl over-analyzes her body and puts herself down. Getting to see hundreds of other naked girls all different shapes and sizes in the dressing room I think has helped a lot of girls to know that they're not so different after all. We all have little things about our bodies that we wish we could change, but then again so does everyone else. I would not recommend it for everyone.. some people simply are more conservative and would feel uncomfortable. It's all about what's okay for YOU. If they're comfortable being naked and can deal with all the bullshit that comes with it, I'd 100% tell them to go for it.
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