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Sports Betting Guides

There are many popular sports across the world and these sports transition well in regards sports that generate a lot of betting interest from punters.
Below is a list of the most popular sports that punters like to have a wager on week in week out, over the coming weeks, I will take each sport and write a betting guide with the most popular bet types across each sporting sphere.
Australian rules football is of course the flagship sport for most Aussie punters and the majority bet on AFL outcomes at some point within a regular season. The most common bets are placed on teams to win either the Premiership or the Brownlow medal.
For more popular betting markets and bet types click through to our AFL betting guide.
Rugby league is also one of the most popular sports that punters bet on throughout the year with the main focus being the Premiership winner and the Dally M award. The rugby league world cup is also popular which comes around every four year.
For more popular betting markets and bet types click through to our NRL betting guide.
Soccer in Australia is quickly becoming one of the most popular alternatives to bet on with the A League which is Australia's premier division and the English Premier League being the two most preferred markets punters like to have a punt on. The World Cup which is held every four years is also very popular amongst punters.
For more popular betting markets and bet types click through to our soccer betting guide.
Cricket in Australia has a long standing history and the public also like to have the odd wager on the sport too with the Sheffield Shield and the relatively new twenty twenty tournament The Big Bash being the common choices amongst punters. The Ashes which is held between Australia and England is also a very popular market.
For more popular betting markets and bet types click through to our cricket betting guide.
With Australia hosting one of the four tennis majors each year it is no surprise that the sport is popular with punters, along with the Australia Open the other three majors which are the US Open, French Open and of course Wimbledon are also popular year on year.
For more popular betting markets and bet types click through to our tennis betting guide.
Horse Racing.
Way out in front of any sport or racing code to bet on is the thoroughbred's, each year horse racing turns over more money than all others combined and it is know wonder as Australia hosts some of the best racing carnivals throughout the world. The Caulfield Cup, Magic Millions, Australian Derby and of course the world famous Melbourne Cup are some of the most popular races each year.
As I wrote earlier, in the coming weeks, I will take each sport and write a betting guide with the most popular bet types across each sporting sphere.
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2018 NRL Premiership Odds

So off-season boredom is kicking in so I decided to check out the premiership odds for next season:
Which I found very interesting, with the Roosters and storm equal premiership favorites. The Storm losing Cronk and history saying you can't win 2 in a row are likely why they aren't shorter, although I still fell like they should be clear favorites with how good they were this season. To be honest I feel like we will see a bolter win the comp next year, maybe a team like the Raiders, too good a team to miss the finals again, plus they always perform well in even numbered years.
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Subreddit Stats: nrl top posts from 2012-09-15 to 2017-11-25 22:22 PDT

Period: 1897.79 days
Submissions Comments
Total 1000 95114
Rate (per day) 0.53 50.09
Unique Redditors 405 4569
Combined Score 107889 734947

Top Submitters' Top Submissions

  1. 10690 points, 42 submissions: NRLgamethread
    1. State of Origin 2016 - Game 1 | Match Discussion Thread (1253 points, 5285 comments)
    2. NRL Grand Final - Broncos v Cowboys | Discussion Thread (1132 points, 5231 comments)
    3. 2016 Grand Final - Melbourne Storm vs Cronulla Sharks | Match Discussion Thread (1080 points, 4896 comments)
    4. 2017 State of Origin - Game 1 | Game Thread (897 points, 5458 comments)
    5. State of Origin - Game 2 | Discussion Thread (769 points, 5301 comments)
    6. State of Origin - Game 3 | Discussion Thread (735 points, 4597 comments)
    7. 2017 State of Origin - Game 2 | Game Thread (506 points, 5816 comments)
    8. State of Origin - Game 1 | Discussion Thread (324 points, 3748 comments)
    9. State of Origin - Game 2 | Discussion Thread (251 points, 2913 comments)
    10. NRL Grand Final | Post Match Thread (210 points, 1115 comments)
  2. 6354 points, 40 submissions: AutoModerator
    1. State of Origin - Game 1 | Discussion Thread (1000 points, 4967 comments)
    2. State of Origin - Game 2 | Discussion Thread (921 points, 5456 comments)
    3. Grand Final: Storm vs Cowboys | Discussion Thread (694 points, 4557 comments)
    4. 2017 State of Origin - Game 3 | Game Thread (505 points, 5280 comments)
    5. Round 1 - Eels vs Broncos | Discussion Thread (180 points, 2858 comments)
    6. Semi Final - Cowboys v Broncos | Discussion Thread (151 points, 4056 comments)
    7. State of Origin - Game 1 | Pre-Game Discussion Thread (140 points, 996 comments)
    8. Rep Round - Australia vs New Zealand | Discussion Thread (132 points, 2219 comments)
    9. Round 22 - Jarryd Hayne vs Warriors | Discussion Thread (128 points, 2841 comments)
    10. Round 2 - Broncos vs Warriors | Discussion Thread (126 points, 2416 comments)
  3. 3342 points, 29 submissions: ScaredOfGreatness
    1. Cronk's kick for Holmes (299 points, 102 comments)
    2. TPJ flick pass for James Roberts try (265 points, 49 comments)
    3. Johnston's foot race with Vunivalu (215 points, 56 comments)
    4. Michael Morgan's match winning field goal (154 points, 66 comments)
    5. Vunivalu's full length try assist for JAC (149 points, 36 comments)
    6. Dugan makes a try saver after Tedesco beats 3 tackles (141 points, 40 comments)
    7. Rabbitohs score on the last tackle after 2 kicks, 3 offloads & 50m (140 points, 24 comments)
    8. Tui Lolohea intcepts Russell Packer's pass to run away for a try (132 points, 21 comments)
    9. Cameron McInnes finishes a Dragons team try (120 points, 11 comments)
    10. Jason Taumalolo finding a gap (120 points, 47 comments)
  4. 2640 points, 27 submissions: himynameiskurt
    1. Robbie Farah smashing down some tinnies on Leichhardt oval scoreboard (229 points, 93 comments)
    2. Cooper Cronk to leave Storm at the end of the season (167 points, 452 comments)
    3. Brandy getting sledged (149 points, 48 comments)
    4. Vunivalu flying knees into Guerra & Watson (136 points, 87 comments)
    5. Taumololo ran for 209 metres, more than JWH, Liu, Guerra, Napa and Watson combined (135 points, 97 comments)
    6. Trent Merrin surprises fan after the game on Monday night (122 points, 40 comments)
    7. Knights sign R.McDonald - Set to be the biggest signing in Rugby League history (117 points, 44 comments)
    8. Sam Thaiday Twerking (103 points, 21 comments)
    9. Michael Morgan's mongstrong hit on Ennis (102 points, 45 comments)
    10. Josh Dugan Clutch Kick (100 points, 43 comments)
  5. 2403 points, 25 submissions: deesmutts88
    1. 7 News Melbourne get a lead on a story. (326 points, 124 comments)
    2. I left my stubby cooler in the sun for so long that it switched sides. (165 points, 38 comments)
    3. Wayne Bennett has smiled. #BreakTheInternet (139 points, 29 comments)
    4. Facebook user alleging that Fox Sports used old footage to fake larger crowds at the game. (131 points, 90 comments)
    5. There has been a fatal Shark attack. (121 points, 29 comments)
    6. Gallen defends Smith against "grub journalism". (116 points, 39 comments)
    7. All the boys celebrating a good try. (110 points, 17 comments)
    8. Where has the Origin hype gone? (95 points, 216 comments)
    9. The Cronulla Sharks open the 2016 bantz season. (90 points, 23 comments)
    10. TAB with the bantz. (88 points, 11 comments)
  6. 1629 points, 19 submissions: shorrrno
    1. Thurston Breaks Neck In 32 Places At Training, Availability In Question For Game II (171 points, 36 comments)
    2. Vu-ni-va-lu? (113 points, 20 comments)
    3. Shaun Johnson wishes he had footwork like Cam Smith (112 points, 45 comments)
    4. Andrew McCullough Ankle Tap TRY Saver (97 points, 45 comments)
    5. Ladder Progression by team: 2015 so far (93 points, 58 comments)
    6. Amazing Broncos Try - Lachlan Maranta vs. Raiders (90 points, 35 comments)
    7. Freddy serenading Jack Bird during ad break (90 points, 28 comments)
    8. Edrick Lee bombed try vs Wests Tigers (ISP) (83 points, 58 comments)
    9. The Daily Telegraph isn't used to NSW winning (81 points, 5 comments)
    10. Alex McKinnon finally out of hospital! (77 points, 2 comments)
  7. 1530 points, 16 submissions: mulimulix
    1. Another year, another senseless act of violence towards innocent chairs. (136 points, 45 comments)
    2. Something not considered or talked about in the controversial no-try in golden point - Eden was out when he touched the ball at the same time as Thurston (131 points, 179 comments)
    3. Jarryd Hayne with a big punt return! (130 points, 113 comments)
    5. Warriors score the most ridiculous try way after the half-time siren. (104 points, 19 comments)
    6. Jennings' diving try so seal the Grand Final win. (102 points, 26 comments)
    7. WARRIORS SCORE OFF A SCRUM AGAINST THE FEED (96 points, 25 comments)
    8. Massive props to the Roosters fan that came up with this sign. (93 points, 9 comments)
    9. Nathan Brown blatantly stamps Titans player on the ground; no penalty (93 points, 103 comments)
    10. Ennis' acting performance. (87 points, 29 comments)
  8. 1422 points, 17 submissions: DreadlockedAussie
    1. Man Of Middle Eastern Appearance Holds Crowd Hostage At Place Of Worship In Sydney’s West (124 points, 16 comments)
    2. NRL Referees To Begin Allowing 7th Tackle Tries As Cowboys Approach Finals (124 points, 28 comments)
    3. Walters Claims Every Single QLD Player Might Not Recover From Injury In Time For Origin (101 points, 18 comments)
    4. Townsville Cop Sacked Without Pay For Bringing The Cowboys Into Disrepute (97 points, 27 comments)
    5. Jarryd Hayne to sign lucrative sponsor deal with Brazzers (95 points, 13 comments)
    6. Streaker Invades Rabbitohs-Roosters Clash, Takes Eight Security To Stop Him, Dragons Show Interest In Attempt To Boost Attack (91 points, 27 comments)
    7. Facebook To Trial ‘No Jarryd Hayne News’ Feature Ahead Of NFL Season (88 points, 13 comments)
    8. Baz Luhrmann Hired To Direct Gus Gould's 2017 Pre-Origin Pep Talk (79 points, 51 comments)
    9. Brisbane Man Gives Son Same Haircut As Wally Lewis For ‘Book Week’ Costume (78 points, 22 comments)
    10. Newcastle Retirement Village vs Baby Horsey Discussion Thread (73 points, 1278 comments)
  9. 1305 points, 11 submissions: Aussieguy727
    1. Beau Ryan being a legend (181 points, 89 comments)
    2. Laurie Daley sacked (178 points, 136 comments)
    3. [OFFICIAL] Cronk Signs with the Roosters (162 points, 352 comments)
    4. 'I'm coming home': Marshall signs deal to return to Tigers (151 points, 101 comments)
    5. Class act by Paul Gallen (121 points, 78 comments)
    6. WIGHTON NOT GUILTY (112 points, 161 comments)
    7. Haka v Sipi Tau - Streamable (99 points, 16 comments)
    8. Wests Tigers announce Ivan Cleary as Head Coach (78 points, 129 comments)
    9. RTS out for season. ACL (77 points, 172 comments)
    10. This really hurts (74 points, 42 comments)
  10. 1193 points, 14 submissions: orru
    1. The Canadian women's team have the best logo in rugby league by far (118 points, 26 comments)
    2. Horseception (106 points, 18 comments)
    3. Sydney Hit By Massive Dust Storm As Parramatta Eels Return Home To Open Trophy Cabinet (xpost australia) (105 points, 29 comments)
    4. Bus in Honolulu, USA (101 points, 27 comments)
    5. World Cup opener averages 1.4m viewers nationally, more than 3x the Bledisloe Cup (96 points, 105 comments)
    6. History happens as all clubs exceed 10,000 members (89 points, 26 comments)
    7. Channel 9 blasted for ‘bias’ and ‘disgraceful’ NRL commentary (88 points, 113 comments)
    8. Just popped up one my fb feed (77 points, 14 comments)
    9. Andrew Voss calls for tri-series between Samoa, Tonga and New Zealand (75 points, 48 comments)
    10. Johnathan Thurston to lead NRL support for Adam Goodes by performing Aboriginal war dance (75 points, 196 comments)
  11. 1168 points, 13 submissions: Tokenofhon
    1. The Great Hayne Bridge: Bringing NRL & NFL Together (189 points, 64 comments)
    2. Penrith Panthers unveil new logo (119 points, 50 comments)
    3. /NRL Alternate Team Mascots: Manly Cunts (92 points, 35 comments)
    4. THAT cheerleader from the penrith v parra game (91 points, 34 comments)
    5. BREAKING: Sam Burgess DENIES having pie and Strongbow for lunch (87 points, 38 comments)
    6. Ch7 in talks with NFL to televise Hayne's NFL games (82 points, 70 comments)
    7. SCANDALEAGUE: Issue #1 (81 points, 26 comments)
    8. NRL Spoonbowl 2015 : Promo video (80 points, 70 comments)
    9. Souths vs Canterbury GF Movie Poster (76 points, 19 comments)
    10. Designed a commemorative Spoonbowl 2014 desktop BG (1920x1080px) (74 points, 18 comments)
  12. 1137 points, 9 submissions: Trying-2-Contribute
    1. An Average week in the NRL (245 points, 225 comments)
    2. For those of your who care: Here's the program for the boys this pre season. Had a few guys ask about what kind of training occurs. (161 points, 91 comments)
    3. As Promised. If Melbourne win... I am in this picture. Catch ya guys! (151 points, 112 comments)
    4. Well it's been unreal... (146 points, 151 comments)
    5. If Melbourne win tonight I'll reveal who I am. (121 points, 53 comments)
    6. Found my Debut jersey. For years I thought a "friend" had stolen it but it popped up in a mag while cleaning. For the sake of my privacy I won't be releasing who I am. (93 points, 238 comments)
    7. As promised here is the weights program. For all you asking about why we do certain things your asking the wrong bloke. I was president of fat club (81 points, 66 comments)
    8. Rugby league making an appearance on "its always sunny in Philadelphia." (75 points, 31 comments)
    9. Anyone planning on making a funnier sign than this one this season? (64 points, 42 comments)
  13. 948 points, 9 submissions: ReggieBasil
    1. Gambling advertising to be banned between kickoff and final siren in NRL games under new Scott Morrison backed proposals (163 points, 123 comments)
    2. Tui Lolohea tries out for the 49ers with a stunning pass (112 points, 35 comments)
    3. TBT: JT in training (108 points, 33 comments)
    4. The classic, the legend. The one, the only. Enchanted. Glossy. Flamingo. (107 points, 36 comments)
    5. Still the highlight of the season so far (102 points, 39 comments)
    6. Some number plate banter from north of the border. (xpost /Australia, credit to DivineCorn (92 points, 23 comments)
    7. Barba released from Sharks contract. (91 points, 221 comments)
    8. A fun creative activity for all the family (89 points, 26 comments)
    9. 1MB free space (84 points, 19 comments)
  14. 910 points, 9 submissions: staind1603
    1. Oi what's that? (170 points, 21 comments)
    2. Big Willie Confirmed... (126 points, 53 comments)
    3. Poor Woodsy.. (109 points, 38 comments)
    4. U WOT M8?? lol jk cyas... (101 points, 19 comments)
    5. Thurston (94 points, 32 comments)
    6. Dat flick tho.. (91 points, 16 comments)
    7. Winner Winner Chicken Dinner! (77 points, 35 comments)
    8. Someone wasn't happy with the Cowboys upset (orange shirt) (74 points, 23 comments)
    9. Tallis blindsides Fletcher (68 points, 21 comments)
  15. 864 points, 4 submissions: Vinsanity9
    1. But he doesnt miss this one! Golden POINT! (422 points, 59 comments)
    2. JT JUST misses the winner! (204 points, 27 comments)
    3. THAT last try at the horn (163 points, 51 comments)
    4. One of the best try celebrations (75 points, 10 comments)
  16. 798 points, 9 submissions: StorminRed
    1. Parramatta Eels salary cap decision mega-thread (146 points, 1502 comments)
    2. The Big Hits of /NFL on the NRL (102 points, 35 comments)
    3. Why you should never let the ball bounce (x-post from /superleague - full credit to sloppyfeashes) (99 points, 58 comments)
    4. How high/low can your team finish in 2016? (93 points, 65 comments)
    5. A deeper look at "the loss they needed to have" since 1998 (76 points, 41 comments)
    6. Hayne Planes, get your Hayne Planes here. (73 points, 63 comments)
    7. How high/low can they go? (Round 17) (73 points, 50 comments)
    8. How high/low can your team finish? Round 18 (71 points, 54 comments)
    9. The Big Hits from NRL (Rd 1) (65 points, 56 comments)
  17. 770 points, 8 submissions: Goobeeful
    1. Thrilling final minutes of Tonga vs England (182 points, 98 comments)
    2. Tonga vs England sold out, set to be biggest crowd (30,000) at Mt. Smart Stadium in 22 years (112 points, 30 comments)
    3. Valentine Holmes becomes the first player in history to score 6 Tries in a World Cup match (90 points, 47 comments)
    4. Tedesco Apologises For Telling Wakeman That His Mum’s Cooking Is No Good (87 points, 20 comments)
    5. Nathan Milone fantastic try vs Fiji Bati (83 points, 8 comments)
    6. First look at Kalyn Ponga in Knights gear (76 points, 57 comments)
    7. Oates get knocked out (75 points, 76 comments)
    8. Ben Hunt punts the ball into Wallace's face (65 points, 21 comments)
  18. 769 points, 6 submissions: the_psycho
    1. NSW BLUES UPVOTE PARTY!!! (289 points, 243 comments)
    2. 50 Years... And the Cronulla Sharks have won their first ever premiership! 14-12 winners over Melbourne Storm. (157 points, 38 comments)
    3. Nathan Hindmarsh walking down Caxton Ave today. (122 points, 21 comments)
    4. Dat feel when no more hoodoo... (71 points, 12 comments)
    5. Shots fired! (66 points, 17 comments)
    6. This is the 2014 Cronulla Sharks 1st grade team poster - marked with all the players unavailable to play on Monday. (64 points, 39 comments)
  19. 762 points, 10 submissions: nightss
    1. Daly Cherry-Evans has signed a three-year deal with the Gold Coast Titans (88 points, 115 comments)
    2. Rabbitohs captain Greg Inglis has entered a mental health rehabilitation facility (86 points, 73 comments)
    3. Rabbitohs inside outside set play (85 points, 39 comments)
    4. Eels sign Michael Jennings (78 points, 105 comments)
    5. Brent Tate announces retirement (77 points, 52 comments)
    6. Alex McKinnon diagnosed as quadriplegic ): (75 points, 80 comments)
    7. Bears reportedly set to buy the Titans and rebrand to the Gold Coast Bears (73 points, 183 comments)
    8. Kieran Foran to walk away from Parramatta Eels contract (68 points, 198 comments)
    9. Neville Longbottom is one of us (68 points, 23 comments)
    10. Ray Warren set to retire from television commentary after 50th year calling rugby league (64 points, 73 comments)
  20. 712 points, 7 submissions: gabsta84
    1. I'm not paying your outlandish stadium prices! (X-post from gifs) (143 points, 18 comments)
    2. Entire Roosters team under investigation by the NRL Integrity Unit following the release of this image. (129 points, 95 comments)
    3. Why the NRL subreddit is the true heart and soul of footy [The Roar] (113 points, 276 comments)
    4. Depression (98 points, 60 comments)
    5. Hayne quits NFL, signs with Roosters for remainder of 2016. (79 points, 77 comments)
    6. Parra Supporter Doesn't Take The News Of Hayne's Departure Very Well... (77 points, 18 comments)
    7. Michael Ennis To Retire At End of 2016 Season (73 points, 100 comments)
  21. 665 points, 7 submissions: adomental
    1. /NRL's 2016 Guide to choosing a team to follow (158 points, 157 comments)
    2. I wrote an email to the Rooster complaining about their recent signings and Roosters CEO John Lee called me back (136 points, 91 comments)
    3. The 2015 /NRL guide to picking a team to follow (87 points, 41 comments)
    4. [NRL Christmas Crackers] What's the difference between the NRL premiership and the Hottest 100? (75 points, 15 comments)
    5. [Stats] A brief analysis of the last five year's odds, or why the bookies always win (75 points, 68 comments)
    6. Three years ago today: The Battle of Brookvale (69 points, 54 comments)
    7. Ben Te'o does something every Rugby League fan has dreamed of. Calls Danny Weidler a grub and says "no one likes you." (65 points, 34 comments)
  22. 643 points, 6 submissions: AssViol8er
    1. So I saw Sam Thaiday in the city today.. (155 points, 42 comments)
    2. Pretty much all Souths fan right now (133 points, 35 comments)
    3. Daily Telegraph respecting the poodles privacy and identity (126 points, 22 comments)
    4. Quality from the back pages of the Courier Mail today. (84 points, 20 comments)
    5. Grieving Brett Kimmorley Talks About Death Of His Wife On League Life (77 points, 30 comments)
    6. TIL Dylan Napa runs a Facebook page dedicated to people who "eat KFC solo" (68 points, 62 comments)
  23. 636 points, 3 submissions: HarveySpectersHair
    1. Nathan Friend just doin stuff. (333 points, 49 comments)
    2. NRL is leaking. Full Credit. (167 points, 14 comments)
    3. Just Tariq Things (136 points, 12 comments)
  24. 580 points, 5 submissions: sheepshagger1994
    1. Manchester United's twitter responds to Manu Vatuvei (221 points, 57 comments)
    2. Players with more points/tries than the Dragons in 2016 (112 points, 104 comments)
    3. It Looks Like Radio NZ Have Never Heard Of The Warriors (91 points, 8 comments)
    4. Sheepshagger1994 presents: A Vodafone Warriors Match Day Experience (87 points, 25 comments)
    5. So my mum just got a call from Bodene Thompson... (69 points, 59 comments)
  25. 579 points, 7 submissions: comradepartypanda
    1. Some Wests fans have made the trip up to Newcastle to celebrate Robbie Farahs 250th game (102 points, 64 comments)
    2. Its Official - Issac luke will join the @NZWarriors in 2016 on 3 year deal (92 points, 128 comments)
    3. The differences between ISC Player and Fan jerseys. (89 points, 84 comments)
    4. Thurston Match Winning Play (83 points, 64 comments)
    5. For the very first time, all 16 Clubs will be wearing an #NRLIndigenous jersey during Round 10 this weekend! (79 points, 53 comments)
    6. Just bought a piece of history: the Souths Nameplate from the old Jubilee Oval Scoreboard! (73 points, 32 comments)
    7. Lote Tuqiri bringing the thunder on Instagram (61 points, 24 comments)

Top Commenters

  1. Tony_AbbottPBUH (14037 points, 1636 comments)
  2. deesmutts88 (13521 points, 948 comments)
  3. adomental (10958 points, 1151 comments)
  4. DreadlockedAussie (9373 points, 1144 comments)
  5. honestjackhonestly (8131 points, 801 comments)
  6. theplanetofthecrepes (6799 points, 541 comments)
  7. FourteenOEight (6057 points, 775 comments)
  8. a_BIG_willie (5621 points, 616 comments)
  9. kami_inu (5351 points, 804 comments)
  10. ChanceVance (5213 points, 601 comments)
  11. reznorhurt (5168 points, 555 comments)
  12. Geddpeart (5101 points, 554 comments)
  13. TurboooTurtle (5097 points, 610 comments)
  14. mathewl832 (4893 points, 571 comments)
  15. comix_corp (4786 points, 542 comments)
  16. thril_hou (4535 points, 449 comments)
  17. ReggieBasil (4483 points, 461 comments)
  18. Fishocopter (4293 points, 505 comments)
  19. jared0h (4055 points, 938 comments)
  20. DeffsNotACop (4032 points, 415 comments)
  21. CockroachClitoris (3931 points, 343 comments)
  22. Keith_Sheldon (3806 points, 394 comments)
  23. for_death_and_ruin (3724 points, 490 comments)
  24. insty1 (3721 points, 248 comments)
  25. the_psycho (3695 points, 385 comments)

Top Submissions

  1. State of Origin 2016 - Game 1 | Match Discussion Thread by NRLgamethread (1253 points, 5285 comments)
  2. NRL Grand Final - Broncos v Cowboys | Discussion Thread by NRLgamethread (1132 points, 5231 comments)
  3. 2016 Grand Final - Melbourne Storm vs Cronulla Sharks | Match Discussion Thread by NRLgamethread (1080 points, 4896 comments)
  4. State of Origin - Game 1 | Discussion Thread by AutoModerator (1000 points, 4967 comments)
  5. State of Origin - Game 2 | Discussion Thread by AutoModerator (921 points, 5456 comments)
  6. 2017 State of Origin - Game 1 | Game Thread by NRLgamethread (897 points, 5458 comments)
  7. State of Origin - Game 2 | Discussion Thread by NRLgamethread (769 points, 5301 comments)
  8. State of Origin - Game 3 | Discussion Thread by NRLgamethread (735 points, 4597 comments)
  9. Grand Final: Storm vs Cowboys | Discussion Thread by AutoModerator (694 points, 4557 comments)
  10. 2017 State of Origin - Game 2 | Game Thread by NRLgamethread (506 points, 5816 comments)

Top Comments

  1. 299 points: truflebuta's comment in 2017 Origin Series - Post Game Thread
  2. 260 points: nick16961's comment in State of Origin 2016 - Game 1 | Post Match Thread
  3. 256 points: deleted's comment in Roosters star Shaun Kenny-Dowall arrested for drug possession at Sydney nightclub
  4. 246 points: StreamHero69's comment in Unhappy Future of Streams
  5. 218 points: ornateplacebo's comment in 2017 State of Origin Game 1 - Post match Thread
  6. 212 points: Butthole__Pleasures's comment in NRL Grand Final | Post Match Thread
  7. 207 points: EastAfrica1's comment in Unhappy Future of Streams
  8. 205 points: shinobiJP's comment in 2017 State of Origin II - Post Game Thread
  9. 197 points: F1GT6's comment in NRL Grand Final | Post Match Thread
  10. 193 points: comradepartypanda's comment in 2017 Origin Series - Post Game Thread
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Man of the Hour: Grand Final Spectacular

Hello everyone and welcome to the Man of the Hour: Grand Final Spectacular. I am Brodire2012. So unless you haven't been following this sub (or don't watch the sport news/Nine at all), you would know that this weekend is the Grand Finals for the AFL and the NRL. Of course, we are here to talk about the better of the two sports... the NRL Grand Final. This year we have the nearly unstoppable minor premiers, the Melbourne Storm taking on the JT-less underdogs, The North Queensland Cowboys. Today, we have a big post. I will start by giving some history on the grand final itself and then we will have an indept look at both teams. Of course that's not the only game we have on tomorrow. In the final Holden Cup match we will ever have, the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles hosting the Parramatta Eels and for State dominance we have the Penrith Panther's team from the NSW Cup taking on the PNG Hunters from the QLD Cup... Well, I guess that makes sense. I was going to look at those other two games but I ran out of time. So with that being said, let go over some history first.
If you remember seeing the 1908 grand final live as a kid. You're a fucking liar because you would be over 110 years old, unless you found immorality than in which case... well done. For the rest of us non-immortal souls, we can look at the history books... or in my case, Wikipedia. 1908 on the 29th of August at the Royal Agricultural Society Showground. The two remaining foundation teams, the Rabbitohs and the Roosters (back then Eastern Suburbs) were the first combatants. It was a close game, no thanks to the Rabbitohs 5/8th and goal kicker Arthur Conlin when suddently from a scrum, Rabbitohs Lock Harry Butler scored to give them the win. The final score was 14-12 in front of a crowd of... about 4,000. And here we thought the Roosters have bad crowds now, it's always been a problem. 109 years later and 96 grand finals later (12 years were either forfeited or had no final) we are here. Since 1908, the Rabbitohs has recieved 21 titles, the most in the history of the competition. The St. George Dragons are up there with 15 titles, the Roosters with 13, Balmain Tigers with 11 and the Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs and Manly Warringah Sea Eagles are leveled with 8 titles. In terms of runners up, the Roosters takes the pole position with 15 GF losses, the St. George Dragons and Rabbitohs are tied with 13, Manly are next with 11, Bulldogs with 10 and Balmain have 9. When the competition changed to the Australian Rugby League (ARL), we had three different winners, (Bulldogs, Manly and the Newcastle Knights) taking the trophy, meanwhile Manly also had 2 GF losses with the St. George Dragons having 1 loss. The Super League War than happen with the Brisbane Broncos winning the only GF over the Cronulla Sharks. Finally in the NRL era of the game, the Broncos have the most titles with 3 wins, the Storm have 2 wins (4 wins but two were taken away due to salary cap issues), the Roosters and Manly also have 2 wins and everyone else (The Bulldogs, Penrith Panthers, Knights, West Tigers, St. George Illawarra Dragons, Rabbitohs, North Queensland Cowboys and the Sharks) have 1 win.
In terms of locations. The grand final happened all over Sydney mostly. We started with the Royal Agricultural Society Showground in the first few matches. The SCG hosted a few in the earlier years, the Sydney Sports Ground hosted a few as well. Starting from the 1952 GF to the 1988 GF, it was exclusively hosted at the SCG. From 1988 to 1999, the GF was changed to Sydney Football Stadium (Allianz Stadium) except for the Super League GF between the Broncos and the Sharks, that was played at QEII Stadium in Brisbane. Then from the start of the new millennium to now, it's been played at ANZ Stadium. With ANZ getting some renovations in a few years, the final will once again have a new home. Starting from the 1986 Grand Final, the Clive Churchill medal has been awarded to the best player on the ground. Clive was one of the original legends of the game playing for Souths at Fullback. Played for a NSW representative team and a Queensland team, coach Souths with a 64% win rate and was named Fullback in the NRL's Team of the Century and is part of the ARL Hall of Fame. There has been some legendary players to win this award like the first winner, Peter Sterling, Alfie Langer, Darren Lockyer, Andrew Johns and Cliff Lyons.
Ok, I think that's enough history. I think now we can look at the teams... But before we do, I need to do some house keeping. During the week, I sent out a survey about the Grand Final. We had a total of 104 people do the Survey Monkey one (this was before I realised you can only have 100 viewable answers with a free account so 4 people's answers aren't counted). And I also had three people message me privately because the survey wasn't working for them/I shut down the survey. I just want to point out the fact that I could only see 100 answers so all the totals will be 103. I asked for the reddit username just because i was curious and thank god no-one had an issue with this. (Tho, I did get a funny answer saying 'Anon, this isn't the marriage survey'), others skipped that question which was fine. So we start with Question 2. "Who are you going for in the 2017 NRL Grand Final and Why?" From the first 100, we have 98 answers. (Thanks u/ohhh_j and other person). From the 101 answers, the Storm recieved 26 votes or 25.74% of all the votes with the Cowboys getting 75 votes or 74.26% of all the votes. I wasn't too surprised by this due to the fact that fellow user u/N3GNK doing his own survey asking "Which team do you hate the most?" With the conclusion of that survey having the Storm on top and the Cowboys being 3rd last. There was a total of 60 comments on the survey page. A lot of them were people saying "That's my team." A lot saying "Fuck the Storm." People were making comments saying it would be good for Billy Slater and Cooper Cronk to finish with a win, others saying they want them to go. Quote a lot of comments pointing out the underdog nature of the Cowboys which i'll talk about later. u/ttdlxgreg saying he was going for the Storm because "Have them in a sweet 5 leg multi." which was the most unique answer so well done and I hope you go well with the multi. So I guess as far as NRL is concerned, the North Queensland Cowboys take the points.
NQL +1
I'll explain the points in a moment.
With this chance, I decided to ask about the other two games as well. Question 3 asked, "Who are you going for in the 2017 NYC Grand Final and Why?" With the options being Manly and Parramatta. It was sad to see that out of the 100 people who did the main survey, 7 people skipped the question. From a combined total of 96 answers, the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles got 21 votes or 21.88% of all the votes. Parramatta got 75 votes or 78.12% of the votes. Again, this wasn't a surprise. People hate Manly with a burning passion, not as much as the Storm but it's still up there. This time we only have 49 comments... and most of them just say 'Fuck Manly." u/Yew420 said "So I can say the Eels won a premiership." Which isn't wrong at all. u/Funztimes voted for Manly because "Two teams winning from 8th would be awesome." Which is also a fair statement to have. Finally we have u/Cheesepenis who voted for Manly becauuse "I am Jason Taumalolo." Can't argue with that.
Finally, we have Question 4 that asked "Who are you going for in the 2017 Interstate Clash and Why?" The two options were the NSW Cup Penrith Panthers team and the QLD Cup PNG Hunters team. To my surprise we actually had a 100% of answers on the survey which was nice to see. From 103 total votes, the Penrith Panthers got 17 votes or 16.5% of all the votes and the PNG Hunters getting 86 votes or 83.5% of the total votes. The odd thing is, the votes for the Hunters were not because of hatred for the other team, the votes are for the Hunters. Lemme explain. From the 42 comments on the survey, a lot of votes are saying because it's the 'QLD' team in the game but more are voting for them because it would be a good story for the PNG community. And I 100% agree. PNG is the only country that has Rugby League as its national sport and for them to win this match would be fantastic for them. Not really any joke comments in this one (expect for Jason 'Cheesepenis' Taumalolo) which was nice to see. Thank again for everyone to participated in the survey.
Okay, so I better explain the point system from two paragraphs ago. This will help to determine who 'Man of the Hour' pick is for the Grand Final. There will many chances for both the Storm and the Cowboys to get points. I will keep a tally and there will not a draw (hopefully). So the Cowboys get the first points. The next set of points will be based on the tipping of different media sources and the team that gets tipped the most gets a point. Starting with, they have 18 tippers and 4 of them has tipped the Cowboys with 14 tipping the Storm. So the Storm get a point.
MEL: 1|NQL: 1 has an article by Scott Pryde where he goes over key players. He comes to the conclusion that the Storm will win so chalk another point for the Storm.
MEL: 2|NQL: 1
Fox Sports... doesn't have any tips as far so no points for anyone. Same with Big League, they usually have tips but I don't have this years copy so again, no points. NRL HQ on the Syndey Morning Herald website does have tipping and while at this point in time not everyone has tipped, 7/10 has tipped Storm so I think its safe to say they get the point.
MEL: 3|NQL: 1
Looking at the betting sites. Sportsbet, Ubet and Crownbet each have the Storm as the favourites so that's another point for the Storm.
MEL: 4|NQL: 1
So currently the Storm have a 4-1 lead. But that can change and I have something special for the GF post. We will have our first guest writer in the series (first guest to send content for this series at least, i'm not including the survey or the updates to other posts or the quotes on the Steve Menzies post). We are going to go over some instresting facts and stats coming into this match. Now unfortunately I don't have the budget to get David Middleton to do stats for a shitty little web article on reddit. And while I would have gone to NRL's own stat man, I decided to go with someone who recently popped his head out in the community. So, thanks to u/SpoontangWild for your work and do you thing.
Thanks to Brodire2012 for the heads up on this. As always, doing these stats is a fun thing for me to do for /nrl and the fact he saw this and wanted my input to compliment his awesome work was validation in knowing what I do is appreciated. So cheers for the request and it's been fun my dudes.
We still start off with some stats about the Grand Final itself. This is the first Grand Final between the Melbourne Storm and the North Queensland Cowboys. This is the second GF in three years and the third GF overall to not feature a NSW team but this will be first time there will not be a single NSW rep player in either teams, the closest will be Jordan McLean who was 19th man for NSW in Game 1. Including 18th man, 11 QLD players will be in the Grand Final. 7 from the Storm (Will Chambers, Cooper Cronk, Cameron Smith (c), Billy Slater, Tim Glasby, Cameron Munster [18th man in Game 2, started Game 3] and Felise Kaufusi was 18th man in Game 3) and 4 from the Cowboys (Justin O'Neill, Michael Morgan, Gavin Cooper and Coen Hess). This will also be the first time the minior premiers will take on the 8th place team in a Grand Final. The last time a 8th place team made the Grand Final was in 2009 with the Parramatta Eels and they had to take on aMelbourne Storm team as well, (except this time the Storm are legal). The Storm are looking to win their fifth NRL title overall and their third legitmate title. This will also be their first Grand Final since the 2012 GF against the Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs. The Cowboys are looking to win their second Grand Final overall and their second in three years. Of course that Final was against the Brisbane Broncos in 2015 (This is Brodire stepping in, Idk what Spoon is talking about, there wasn't a Grand Final in 2015 but whatever). A suprising fact, the Cowboys will be considered the away team for a third time in a grand final. The Cowboys will have a little advantage as they have two former Melbourne Storm GF players in their team, Justin O'Niell who is in the centres and played with the Storm in the 2012 GF and Ben Hampton on the bench who was with the Storm last year. If the Cowboys do win, they will be the first team to win from 8th and the first team to win from outside the top 4 in the NRL era. The lowest ranked winner in recent memory was the Bulldogs in 1995 when they came from 6th. They will also be the first team since the Roosters in 2002 to play and win all four games during a finals series.
Let's move to facts about the teams. The last two meetings in a finals series were both played at AMMI Park. The Cowboys won the 2015 Preliminary Final 32-12 to make the grand final that year and then the following year, the Storm striked back with a 16-10 win in the 2016 Qualifying Final. The Storm's record at ANZ Stadium in finals games is currently at 5 Wins, 0 Draws and 4 Losses. Their last win was in that 2012 GF. The Cowboys currently sit at 4 wins and 3 losses with their last win being against the Eels two weeks ago. This will possible be the final time that the big three (Billy, Cooper and Cameron) will play together with Cooper having one eye on retirement and the other eye on Tara, Billy might follow suit and retire after this season as well. Cameron will still be playing next year and possible years after.
Time for points. Overall, the Storm and the Cowboy have played 35 matches against each other with the Storm winning 25 game to the Cowboys 10. But in finals games, there has been three games with the Cowboys winning 2 games to the Storms 1. The first match was in 2005 with the Cowboys winning 24-16. The Storm has won both of the clashes this year against the Cowboys. The first one was in the Origin affected match in Round 15 when they won 23-22 in Melbourne thanks to a Brodie Croft Field Goal and then again in Round 22 when the Storm won 26-8 in Townsville. On top of that, it has been since that 2015 Preliminary Final game that the Cowboys last beat the Storm. Cooper Cronk is the most experienced player on the ground... in terms of grand finals with him playing in 6 other Storm Grand Finals since 2006. Also under the new NRL Final System (from 2012 to now) (And yes, there is no creative name, it's just called NRL Finals System). All winners have come from the top 4. Hell, since the start of the NRL era, no winners have come from the bottom half of the top 8. Finally looking at GF experience. The Storm have more total games experience with 27 GF games compared to the 14 from the Cowboys but the Cowboys have more players with experience with 13 players compared to the Storms 12 players.
To the actual game, it's the best team over 26 rounds versus the best team currently. My mind says Storm but my heart says Cowboys so hopefully for you Cowboys fans, it's a repeat of 2015. But I'm seeing the trophy head south so Melbourne by 10 with Cam Smith getting the Clive Churchill.
Thanks Spoon, it was a pleasure working with you. Let's count those points. The Storm will get points for winning more games than the Cowboys, winning both games this year, being inside the top 4 and having more GF experience. But the Cowboys get points for more GF players and more finals wins against the Storm. This makes the score...
MEL: 8|NQL: 3
We will now go into a bit of an indepth look at the two teams. Now, here's a disclamier. I'm not a genius. I don't have stats on every single player with every single thing they did this season. This is as much in dept that I can do and I want to do. With that said, let's start.
First, we will compare every player in their position in three stats. 1 point per team for every win so there are 17 points up for grabs. What stats are they? If you guys remember earlier in the week, I had two surveys, one was the one I talked about earlier, the other one was asking what were the most important stats in every position. I got six responses and I picked the top picks/one's I could find. We are going this by comparing postition and number. Aka Fullback on Fullback, Winger with 2 on the back vs Winger with 2 on the back, like that. In terms of the bench players, I tried my best to compare similar players in terms of positions. So for reference, i'm comparing Slade Griffen and Ben Hampton as Hookers, Kenny Bromwich and Corey Jensen as Locks, Tim Glasby and Coen Hess as Second Rowers and Nelson Asofa-Solomona and Shaun Fensom as Props. Another point to note. Another note, games and grad finals do not include tomorrows game and finally, the stats will be averages for this season to make it fair to compare, expect for the Tie Breaker, that will be done in full numbers.
1 Fullback 1
William ‘Billy’ Slater Name Lachlan Coote
34 Age 27
Innisfail Brothers Junior Club Windsor Wolves
298 Total Games 155
4 Total Grand Finals 1
0.8 Linebreaks 0.3
29.9 Kick Return Metres 31.6
0.8 Try Assists 0.4
2 Score 1
2 Wing 1 2
Suliasi Vunivalu Name Kyle Feldt
21 Age 25
Saint Kentigern College (RU) Junior Club Norths Thuringowa Devils
45 Total Games 72
1 Total Grand Finals 1
0.9 Tries 0.6
0.8 Linebreaks 0.5
132.4 Metres 124
3 Score 0
3 Centre 1 3
William Chambers Name Justin O'Neill
29 Age 26
St. Joseph's College Junior Club Hughenden Hawks
165 Total Games 137
3 Total Grand Finals 2
0.3 Tries 0.1
127 Metres 90.5
0.3 Try Assists 0.1
3 Score 0
4 Centre 2 4
Curtis Scott Name Kane Linnett
19 Age 28
Cronulla-Caringbah JRLFC Junior Club Port Kembla Blacks
14 Total Games 174
0 Total Grand Finals 1
0.4 Tries 0.2
121.6 Metres 125.7
0.3 Try Assists 0.1
2 Score 1
5 Wing 2 5
Joshua 'Josh' Addo-Carr Name Antonio Winterstein
22 Age 29
Le Perouse Panthers Junior Club Logan Brothers
35 Total Games 197
0 Total Grand Finals 1
0.8 Tries 0.2
1 Linebreaks 0.3
137.7 Metres 107.7
3 Score 0
6 5/8th 6
Cameron Munster Name Te Maire Martin
23 Age 21
North Knights Junior Club Turangawaewae
65 Total Games 25
1 Total Grand Finals 0
0.7 Try Assists 0.1
50 Kicking Metres 40.6
1 Linebreak Assists 0.2
3 Score 0
7 Halfback 7
Cooper Cronk Name Michael Morgan
33 Age 25
St. Laurence's College (RU) Junior Club Townsville Brothers
322 Total Games 127
6 Total Grand Finals 1
0.7 Try Assists 0.8
267.9 Kicking Metres 253.7
0.9 Linebreak Assists 0.5
2 Score 1
8 Prop 1 8
Jesse Bromwich Name Atalani "John" Asiata
28 Age 24
Manurewa Marlins Junior Club Wentworthville Magpies
175 Total Games 77
2 Total Grand Finals 1
50.2 Minutes 43.4
23.4 Tackles 18.4
9.83 Metres/Hit Up 8.16
3 Score 0
9 Hooker 9
Cameron Smith (C) Name Jake Granville
34 Age 28
Logan Brothers Junior Club Rockhampton Brothers
357 Total Games 79
5 Total Grand Finals 1
38.6 Tackles 31.4
6.1 Dummy Half Runs 3.6
0.9 Linebreak Assists 0.2
3 Score 0
10 Prop 2 10
Jordan McLean Name Scott Bolton
26 Age 30
Young Cherrypickers Junior Club Innisfall Brothers
83 Total Games 205
1 Total Grand Finals 1
40.9 Minutes 53.4
22.1 Tackles 31.4
10.47 Metres/Hit Up 9.28
1 Score 2
11 Second Row 1 11
Felise Kafusi Name Gavin Cooper (C)
25 Age 32
Bundaberg Brothers Junior Club Murgon Mustangs
61 Total Games 259
0 Total Grand Finals 1
33.1 Tackles 30.3
77.4 Minutes 77.5
8.68 Metres/Hit Up 8.69
1 Score 2
12 Second Row 2 12
Tohu Harris Name Ethan Lowe
25 Age 26
Tamatea (RU) Junior Club Goondiwindi Boars
115 Total Games 92
1 Total Grand Finals 1
29.6 Tackles 29.6
69.9 Minutes 70.3
8.92 Metres/Hit Up 9.41
0 Score 2
13 Lock 13
Dale Fiucane Name Vaai 'Jason' Taumalolo
26 Age 24
Bega Roosters Junior Club Papakura Sea Eagles
138 Total Games 138
3 Total Grand Finals 1
33.2 Tackles 27.9
8.38 Metres/Hit Ups 11
0.4 Errors 0.4
- Bonus Round -
8 Offloads 30
1 Score 2
17 Bench:Utility 14
Slade Griffin Name Ben Hampton
26 Age 25
Cobden-Kohinoor Keas Junior Club Temora Dragons
24 Total Games 62
0 Total Grand Finals 1
18.9 Tackles 14.6
1.6 Dummy Half Runs 1.7
0.1 Linebreak Assists 0.1
- Tie Breaker -
1 Try Assists 2
1 Score 2
16 Bench: Prop 17
Nelson Asofa-Solomona Name Shaun Fensom
21 Age 28
Upper Hutt Rugby Football Club (RU) Junior Club Bellingen Dorrigo Magpies
51 Total Games 159
0 Total Grand Finals 0
33.1 Minutes 39
18.2 Tackles 24.9
9.79 Metres/Hit Up 9.58
1 Score 2
15 Bench: Second Row 15
Tim Glasby Name Coen Hess
28 Age 21
Norths Knights Junior Club Across The Waves Tigers
85 Total Games 35
1 Total Grand Finals 0
24.4 Tackles 23.4
41.1 Minutes 55.9
9.19 Metres/Hit Ups 9.74
1 Score 2
14 Bench: Lock 16
Kenneth Bromwich Name Corey Jensen
26 Age 23
Manurewa Marlins Junior Club Bowen Seagulls
91 Total Games 16
1 Total Grand Finals 0
24 Tackles 14
8.41 Metres/Hit Up 9.45
0.2 Errors 0.0
1 Score 2
- Total Score -
9 - 8
(Behind the scenes look, Holy shit did that take forever to do)
Before anyone claims I rigged the votes, I didn't. I just went off what you guys want. With the scores now updated. We have
MEL: 17|NQL: 11
Let's look at other stats going into this game. The Storm are currently on a 9 game winning steak and the Cowboys are on a 3 game streak. MEL + 1. The Cowboys are currently working with the Queenland Trademarked 'Underdog Status'. NQL +1. The Storm has won 4 grand finals from 7 attempts which is a win rate of 57.50% and the Cowboys have won 1 from 2 attempts making their rate 50%. But two of the Storms wins were taken away because of Salary Cap issue so their rate goes down to 28.57%. NQL +1. Finally, the weather in Sydney seems to be cooler today. Which is the opposite of how it's been in Brisbane for the past week. That will suit the Storm better. MEL +1.
So, the final score here is the Melbourne Storm with 19 Points and the North Queensland Cowboys with 11 Points. This will mean that the 'Man of the Hour' Grand Final Tip will be the Melbourne Storm by 6 points. Thank you so much for joining me today guys. This has been planned for a long time and I'm so glad to have this done. Enjoy the Grand Final guys.
Okay, i'm not done yet. I have some people I need to thank. Thank you again to u/SpoontangWild for his contribution for this post, that was amazing and I'm glad you were able to find all those facts, I wouldn't have be able to do that myself. Thank you to u/UnluckyNumberS7evin for researching and sending me the information on all the Storm players, that was helpful and save a lot of time. Thanks to two of our fantastic mods, u/FourteenOEight and u/reznorhurt for helping with some behind the scene help and clarifying some rules for me. And finally thank you all for reading my silly posts. I starting this a little ago and the constant feedback and encouragement from the fellow redditors has been amazing. Thank you to those who help with either survey and those who PMed me because it wasn't working.
Now, I enjoy this subreddit and I enjoy reading others work and this grand final has shown some incredible posts so I'm just going to link to a few for those who want more readings.
u/AudioSky have a post about the Cowboys and the players they used which is a good read. (Fun fact, originally I was going to do that as well but as I was doing the begining of this post, this guy posted this which was a fantastic job. I ended up giving up because it was taking too long but i'll thought I would link to his any way.) Hit and Miss Cowboys 2017
Of course, NRL's very own stat man u/Tunza did a excellent 3 Part post series on the referees which was a great read. Referee Analysis Part 1, Referee Analysis Part 2, Referee Analysis Part 3
u/BJL6 does Youtube montages and he made an amazing montage for the NRL Grand Final. BJL6 GF Montage
u/CheeseLife1 and u/Dark_Vengence had similar but different ideas as they set up discussions talking about players with the least NRL games and Most NRL games played for a title. CheeseLife1's Youngest NRL Grand Finalists Discussion and Dark_Vengence's Oldest NRL Grand Finalist Disucssion
Finally, this one is not a reddit user submittion but while resourcing this yesterday, I found this post on that was massive post that I think people should see.
As for this series. Next week will be the end of this season of 'Man of the Hour'. But, I will be back next season from the start for season 2. Next week won't be a player but it's just something I want to do. Okay, no I will go. Thank you all for reading and Go the Parramatta Eels U20s, PNG Hunters and the Melbourne Storm.
Sources: Just saying, the only things not in the sources are the betting sites because Reddit won't allow that, the suvey links because I don't want to give out who people tipped and finally all the wikipedia links because there were so many.
Wikipedia (sorry, not sorry)
Big League: Volume 96, Issue 30 (2015 Grand Final Issue)
Brodire2012's Survey: Grand Final Picking
Edit: Stupid spelling mistakes.
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October 3, 2015 - JW

My record is available here -
Now, it's a pretty good size slate, and I think it's going to be a good one to kickstart our October. Here's hoping, and I hope everyone has a great weekend. If you have any questions or require further explanation, I'd be happy to provide my thoughts when I'm up! Cheers, and let's make some money.
Germany Bundesliga: Hoffenheim vs. Stuttgart
To me, this is a game of two teams heading in opposite directions. Both sides have struggled to open their Bundesliga campaigns, but Hoffenheim have had two credible results in a row. They looked capable in their 1-1 draw with Borussia Dortmund, but it was their 3-1 victory over Augsburg where I finally saw a glimmer of what I expect from Hoffenheim this season. I have high hopes for them. Stuttgart, on the other hand, do not have nearly as much quality as Hoffenheim, and their results show as much. They've lost six of their seven Bundesliga matches, thus far, and I do not see them turning things around soon. Hoffenheim are one of the more attacking sides in Germany, and they play an extremely high defensive line that borders on suicidal at times. It's great at trapping in the opposition, but it can certainly leave them exposed. Personally, I just think Hoffenheim have one of the most underrated attacks in Germany and the bookies have mispriced this bet. Stuttgart have been conceding goals far too easy, and I do not see a reason that will stop against a good Hoffenheim team. They are out of form, and do not have the same quality. My Pick of The Day is Hoffenheim Draw No Bet (PK, AH 0.0) @ 1.85. Now, this is a bit of a weird one, but I think the odds are simply too good to pass up. I'm also going to take Hoffenheim to win @ 2.48
Portugal Segunda Liga: Benfica B vs. Mafra
If you've been following my picks for a while, then you may remember that I've always been a fan of taking Overs in games involving Benfica's B team. Since they are a bit of a development club, they always have extremely promising youngsters eager to make an impression. The easiest way to make an impression is with creative individuality and attacking excellence, and that seems to be the mindset that many of Benfica B's players possess. They play an extremely attacking style at home and hope to score as many goals as possible and are quite comfortable trading chances with the opposition. The other thing about Benfica B is that they can't get promoted as their senior team is in the first division. What that means is that results aren't really the driving force behind a tactical approach as it would be for other sides. They know they have quality, so they try and showcase it. They aren't scoring as much lately as they are used to, but helpfully, they are taking on a newly promoted Mafra side that still aren't comfortable and experienced enough at this level. They don't have a ton of money, so most of the players are of the league below's quality. Mafra may score, so don't be alarmed, as Benfica B's defense is porous, but I think eventually Benfica will see their way through. I'm going to take Over 2.5 Goals @ 2.18 and Benfica B to win @ 1.61
Spain La Liga: Sevilla vs. Barcelona
Recently, in backing the over in a Sevilla game, I explained how they have a long list of defensive absentees and how their attack is potent. Well, all of those factors still remain. They were carved apart by Rayo Vallecano, and if Rayo can do that, Barca should have a field day. The biggest issue for Sevilla, however, is the absence of goaltender Beto as backup Rico is erratic to say the least. They were dominated in the Champions League by Juventus in one of the more one way matches I've seen in some time, and now face a similarly nightmarish match at home against Barcelona. Like I said, Sevilla do have the ability to score a bunch of goals, so I'd stay away from the handicap market backing Barca. Everyone knows the talent Barca still have up front, even without Messi, so I'm not going to get into it. I'm going to take Over 3 Goals @ 2.01
Other games I'm on:
Rugby World Cup: Samoa vs. Japan - Japan +7 @ 1.97
Rugby World Cup: South Africa vs. Scotland - South Africa -15 @ 1.92
England Premier League: Bournemouth vs. Watford - Watford +.5 Goals Asian Handicap @ 1.80
England Premier League: Chelsea vs. Southampton - Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.89
England Premier League: Crystal Palace vs. West Brom - Over 2.5 Goals @ 2.19
France Ligue 1: Nice vs. Nantes - Nice to win @ 2.00
Germany Bundesliga: Hertha Berlin vs. Hamburger - Hertha Berlin to win @ 2.17
Germany Bundesliga: Borussia Monchengladbach vs. Wolfsburg - Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.75
Italy Serie A: Chievo vs. Verona - Chievo to win @ 2.17
Italy Serie A: Carpi vs. Torino - Torino to win @ 2.20
Netherlands Eredivisie: Roda vs. Cambuur - Roda to win @ 2.04
Netherlands Eredivisie: Willem II vs. Zwolle - Over 2.5 Goals @ 1.84
Northern Ireland Premiership: Glenavon vs. Dungannon - Glenavon to -1 Goal Asian Handicap @ 1.97
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